Fishing

To those of you who use slip-bobbers, and don't buy the pre-tied knots, what type of string do you use on your knots and how is that working for you?

I've been tying my own, using fly line backing, but that doesn't seem to work all that well. It tends to loosen up over time at least in part due to not being able to tighten it as tight as I'd like. I'm thinking it is due to the type of line that it is and that it doesn't slide over itself and lend to good tightening. So, I want to know what others are using and like.

The other day I knew the depth I wanted so I tied a blood knot in the correct spot and that worked extremely well. The down side was that it is completely stationary. I was thinking I'd try some mono with the same knot I've been using, or perhaps trying a different knot, or both.

Speak freely, but just so you know, I'm not all that interested in purchasing the pre-tied knots at any price. I like to "tie my own" if you know what I mean. It's a personal thing.....

Keep your gun powder dry and your fishing hooks wet....

I use a float n fly rig on the river now and then and I have always just tied a piece of 50 lb braid for my stopper. I leave enough tag ends to be able to pull it tight, and slide it up or down the line to adjust the slip bobber. I'm sure not very expert in slip bobber fishing, however.
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i have used waxed dental floss before and it worked for me. I have also used waxed dental floss to mark my line for crappie at a certain depth just to know where they are. And you can use it to floss your teeth when you are eating jerky

Neil quit being a cheap azz, just buy them..... LOL....
Matt

here this may help you....
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How are you tying your knots? I too use backing and have never had any issues with knots coming loose over time, i.e. how many wraps do you do, how do you tighten the knots, etc....

Kevlar thread.............. I have used the same knot on my steelhead float rod an entire season and not had to change it. One spool should be enough to last a lifetime.

*Theres no head like steelhead*
They came through hell and high water to get here! The least we can do is greet em!

You guys in Idaho are on the ball !! i doubt there are more than a dozen guys here in Utah that even know what a slipbobber is, let alone how to tie a slipbobber knot. Go to your local upholstry shop and get a SMALL spool of the waxed nylon that they use, color is not a problem. So you don't have to buy a whole spool ( about 2000 yds) take a card, notched like a floss winder, an wind a couple of yards on it. I tie mine on the small coffee stirrer straws that you get in your local convenience store. You can tie 6-8 knots on a straw and then either cut the straw up and carry them in a small plastic bag with your beads. You can also get some heavy duty cotton thread at a local fabric store also, just get the heavyest you can find.

hey slip bobber guys,
can this application be used for fly fishing?
in still water , I suspended nymphs under slip indicators and I wonder if your method applies for this situation as well.

I am guessing you use this in stealhead rigs?

Match

Sure you could, I have used it with a corky before on a river (no bead needed). Our main problem is the thickness (and softness) of fly line and leaders with knots. If you are using level mono or floro for the leader, it should work. A slip indicator works also and you don't have to put a knot or bead on. But if you don't have a slip indicator or you want to avoid kinking your leader, then sure why not.bb

I used a knot and a corky, because I wanted to try it. It was easier to adjust than a lot of other river indicators. It also didn't kink my leader like the indicators you loop on. One other advantage that I saw or felt was that it was easier to cast as the indicator was up close to the fly or flies. One note though,....the fly needs to be heavy enough or you need to add a weight to pull the line out or else the fly stays there next to the corky. There are some very small mini-splitshot that work great with this. Using a corky, which has a very small hole, I didn't need a bead on there before the knot, such as a regular slip bobber needs.

I've been using the knot found here: http://www.wigglefin.com/...s/fishing_knots.html, the first one on this knots page.

I tighten by pulling both ends at the same time after making 6 wraps. The problem with the backing line is that it just bunches up instead of making a nice neat knot.

Last night I tried it with mono and it worked a little better. I also tried this knot with mono: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUtlbesKanM, and it worked pretty well, but I'm not sure it will cast well. I'm going to give it a try tomorrow when I go to Brownlee with Duck-Slayer.

Keep your gun powder dry and your fishing hooks wet....

 20 or 30 pound Dacron and this

Dacron? Is that fishing line? I've heard of it, but I'm not familiar with it.

Keep your gun powder dry and your fishing hooks wet....

http://www.google.com/...e=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

this is what I found,
Matt
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dacron line is used for flying 2 string kites. Very strong and braided.

Hmmm,

Pretty sure that's what I'm using, but it's different than what's been used on the pre-tied knots I've bought in the past.

Keep your gun powder dry and your fishing hooks wet....

That is a similar knot to what I use, but a little different. Ever heard of a knot tying tool? They cost 4 or 6 bucks at.sportsmans or even in the exclusive wally world fly tying shop. This is what I use with 20 lb. backing wrapped 7-8 times. I believe they call it a nail knot when all said and done.

Here's a picture of the knot I use.

Oops.

Dacron is fly line backing. You can get it at Sportsman's




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Yeah, that is what I've been using. I call it fly line backing. Dacron is a trademark name from Dupont I think. Turns out I've been using it for 30 years. Just never called it Dacron before.

Keep your gun powder dry and your fishing hooks wet....

 we use it for fly reel backing as well as sturgeon fishing. gudebrod makes it with with Teflon or wax impregnated so it self lubricated really helps when you have a big fish making a run.

Dacron is just polyester...it is the name of the material like nylon. It won't stretch and won't mildew. There is also Gelspun backing which is tuff stuff. Smaller diameter per poundage and coated for slickness. More expensive but last forever. Very hard to cut.

DACRON
Polyethylene terephthalate
Polyethylene terephthalate, commonly abbreviated PET, PETE, or the obsolete PETP or PET-P, is a thermoplastic polymer resin of the polyester family and is used in synthetic fibers; beverage, food and ... Wikipedia
Formula: (C10H8O4)n
Melting point: 250° C (482° F)
Density: 1.40 g/cm³
IUPAC ID: poly(ethylene terephthalate)




Some things are better left alone, Even though, some feel they know better.
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Keep your gun powder dry and your fishing hooks wet....

You might want to check out some Gel spun. Could be the ticket.




Some things are better left alone, Even though, some feel they know better.
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Sounds like it might be worth a try.

Incidentally, I tried out the mono yesterday. Mono worked pretty good as a stop, but didn't cast as well as I'd like. It seemed to add a bit of resistance sliding through the eyelets and coming off the reel.

Something not quite so stiff, but that will cinch down tight and not slide. You wouldn't happen to have about 3 extra feet? I'd be willing to pay the postage if you did..... all $.42 worth...

Keep your gun powder dry and your fishing hooks wet....