Hey has anyone in here had any success fishing for Kokanee at east canyon?
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I think they have been gone for quite a few years. Not sure though.
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[font "Comic Sans MS"][#800000]I have fished EC for about 20 years and have never caught a kokanee there. I've heard that they were stocked experimentally many years ago and did not take. According to utahfishinginfo.com, they are[#800000] likely extirpated (non-existent) due to low water during drought years.[/#800000][/#800000][/font]
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I have in the mid 70's [cool]
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I never knew they had ever put kokes in EC.
To bad they didn't take and become a good fisheriy for them
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They were in the lake in the early 60's and did well for several years.
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any info on what lead to there demise?
Probably lake ran to low, to many times & killed em all off?
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Poor spawning returns is the problem , the DWR has learned over the years, that to keep kokanee in Utah lakes, they must stock them every year & supplement the natural reproduction .
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I wonder what the fish are down to 120 ft depth that don't bite see em all the time send the downriggers down but no hits tube dude should know
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[quote Littlebuck3333]I wonder what the fish are down to 120 ft depth that don't bite see em all the time send the downriggers down but no hits tube dude should know[/quote]
They are big ole browns! From time to time I can get one to bite a tube jig deep on the bottom... Fat healthy guys, and for some reason they don't seem to be affected by the anchor worms that chew on all the rainbows. Maybe the depth has something to do with it?
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We used to catch one once in a while until about the 1980s, but someone told me that the streamflow was not sufficient water quality for the spawn. Therefore as dubob so eloquently put it, they were extirpated.
There are other places that they would be welcome, such as Lost Creek.
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[quote WaveWolf] There are other places that they would be welcome, such as Lost Creek.[/quote]
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[font "Calibri"]Chub population is too high at Lost Creek to successfully introduce Kokanee. They would be in direct competition with each other. But yes, a wonderful thought!![/font]
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I heard back quite a while ago that the fertilizers from the golf courses up stream in Park City were major contributors to the Kokes demise.
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[quote slimerslayer]I heard back quite a while ago that the fertilizers from the golf courses up stream in Park City were major contributors to the Kokes demise.[/quote][font "Comic Sans MS"][#800000]In East Canyon? I would think that darn near impossible since for that to be true, water would have to flow UP hill to get over the mountains that separate East Canyon from Park City. But hey, what do I know. [
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[quote dubob][quote slimerslayer]I heard back quite a while ago that the fertilizers from the golf courses up stream in Park City were major contributors to the Kokes demise.[/quote][font "Comic Sans MS"][#800000]In East Canyon? I would think that darn near impossible since for that to be true, water would have to flow UP hill to get over the mountains that separate East Canyon from Park City. But hey, what do I know. [
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I can't believe this is happening, but I have to correct you dubob. Strangely enough, East Canyon Creek flows South to North into East Canyon, flowing through the golf course at the mouth of the canyon and past the Glenwild course in Silver Summit.
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Yep that entire basin that is around the old park west ski resort flows down past Jeremy Ranch and on over to east canyon. There is even a road to cut down through there so that you dont have to go around.
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[font "Comic Sans MS"][#800000]I stand corrected. Doing a Google search for golf courses in the Park City area, I see that East Canyon Creek does in fact run right through Jeremy Ranch Golf & Country Club. There may in fact be some residual runoff of fertilizers from there. Tracing the creek to the ends of all it's tributaries shows that there are no other courses in direct contact with the creek, including Glenwild. Up until today, I did not know that the Jeremy Road canyon was downhill all the way from Jeremy Ranch/ParkCity area. I learned something new today. Thank you Gentlemen for setting me straight. And apologies to slimerslayer for doubting him. [
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Like said some are browns and some are big suckers, I snagged one that went over my scales limit of 15# ..
It was around 2009 or 10..
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In my teens, before there was a Jeremy Ranch and golf course, I used to fish East Canyon Creek all the time. Great fun, in a nice setting.
I have no proof, but it is my belief that the development and golf course surrounding the creek has caused the water quality to degrade, even resulting in the water temperature to be warmer than if left in a natural state. This has hurt East Canyon Reservoir as far as Trout habitat is concerned.
My two cents.
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There were Kokanee in East Canyon all through the late 80'd and early 90's. I know this for a fact as my family had a time share at east canyon resort. We used to watch the kokanee spawn up the river and past our condo's every fall. Im not sure at what point they disappeared but I have also heard the Jeremy ranch fertilizer theory. Supposedly all that fertilizer lowered oxygen content in the river thus making it incompatible for the fish. I have no idea if this is so but I can say we never saw fish in that river except during the sucker and Kokanee spawns. I tried for years to find trout all up and down that river. Never saw or caught one, not ever. I always found that perplexing back then. When I heard this fertilizer theory I thought perhaps it explained the lack of trout in a river that looks like it should be full of them.
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