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Guess I am done fishing for awhile even though I go with my dad and my son only (both I am around every day anyways) because I don't live in a county with a state park with a lake. So depressing! Be safe everyone!

Ironically, if I wanted to be alone, I would go fishing at a State Park that is not in my county.  Spacing between people when I do that is typically over a mile.  There is a lot of space in State Parks.  Here's a picture of me fishing at a State Park.  Just look at all the spaciousness behind me -- no getting a virus there!  Social distancing is greater than one mile!

(03-28-2020, 12:56 AM)muirco Wrote: [ -> ]Guess I am done fishing for awhile even though I go with my dad and my son only (both I am around every day anyways) because I don't live in a county with a state park with a lake. So depressing! Be safe everyone!

"Herbert said outdoor activities like running, hiking, fishing and hunting are OK, adding that Utahns should give others at least 6 feet of distance while recreating outdoors and there shouldn’t be any congregations at trailheads."
I'm just gonna go ahead and function as normal while practicing that social distancing.
Ran to the store for a couple items, and is was impossible to practice social distancing due to how close the checkout stands were. That's OK, but I can't go to the middle of nowhere with the people I live with?
Business as almost usual.

If you read the actual document, state parks are closed unless you live in that county. I live in Davis county, so I am done. Oh well. Good luck to anyone that can still fish!

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Gov. Herbert Urges Utahns To "Stay Safe, Stay Home" | KPCW
https://www.kpcw.org/post/gov-herbert-ur...-stay-home

I've been going off of this.

https://stateparks.utah.gov/2020/03/16/c...9-updates/

I fish alone 90% of the time or meet friends at the location.

Looks like they updated it last night just after 9pm to what I pointed out.

(03-28-2020, 12:56 AM)muirco Wrote: [ -> ]Guess I am done fishing for awhile even though I go with my dad and my son only (both I am around every day anyway) because I don't live in a county with a state park with a lake. So depressing! Be safe everyone!

There are some conflicts in that directive and there is too much leeway in some of the items listed.  For instance: “Limit travel to only essential travel, as defined below, including to perform work if you cannot telework.”  Limit travel to what amount?  An hour; 2 trips a day; 1 trip a week?  Who determines how much to limit?

” Essential travel means travel to: engage in recreational and outdoor activities.”  Outdoor activities are further defined here: “Remain at least six feet apart from individuals from other households while engaging in outdoor activities (e.g., walking, hiking, running, biking, driving for pleasure, hunting, or fishing).  So traveling to and from a fishing venue (reservoir, stream, community pond, etc.) is okay as long as it is ‘limited’ - whatever that is.  So if it's 'esential' travel, why do I have to limit it?  And, “Do not go to or engage in activities at a state park located outside the county in which you reside (the availability of national parks will be determined in consultation with the National Park Service and the county in which the park is located).  Are we on an honor system here?  Or will the gates be manned and driver's licenses checked for legal address to prevent non-county residents access?  Out of the hundreds of fishing venues available to us in Utah, less than 43 (the total number of state parks in Utah and not all have a body of water within their boundaries) are closed to you via this directive.  Stream fishing is wide open throughout the state.  There isn’t a blanket order closing all Federally controlled venues to the public – yet.

This is a personal choice to stop fishing until the current crisis is over.  And you will not be judged by me as good or bad based on your decision to go fishing or to not go fishing.  Be aware of the risks, follow the guidelines/directives, and choose what works for you.  I was going to go to Jordanelle next week as my first trip of the year.  That is no longer an option for me because I live in Weber County.  The only option I have for boat fishing is Pineview which I have no desire to fish.  So, my choices at the present are limited (there’s that word again ).  I’m not a big fan of shore fishing or river fishing this time of year, so I’ll probably just sit it out until I can start using our State Park venues once again.  But it is a CHOICE and not a REQUIREMENT.

I guess that is what I was getting at for me...I troll and jig from a boat and live in davis county, so lake fishing is done for me.

(03-28-2020, 02:49 PM)muirco Wrote: [ -> ]I guess that is what I was getting at for me...I troll and jig from a boat and live in davis county, so lake fishing is done for me.

You can still fish Pineview, Newton, or Lost Creek locally if they are ice free.  I would guess Newton is for sure, but don't think Pineview or Lost Creek are at this time.  But I don't know that for sure.  I can't do Newton or Lost creek by myself because neither have a tie up dock.  And I have no desire to fish Pineview even if it is ice free.  The docks won't be put in there until they open for the season and I'm not going to pay an almost $20 launch fee to fish there.  But you still have choices beyond just State Parks if you REALLY want to go.  Just sayin'!  

So what about Lincoln Beach at Utah Lake. Bob, couldn't you go down there and launch your boat? Can I (from Idaho) go there?

I'm pretty sure my hang tag dose not say "county" parks pass. I say either close them completely, or let the public use them responsibly. There are many residents of Weber county that live closer to Willard than some residents of northern Box Elder. Only allowing county residents to use the parks does not add any level of added safety or responsibility. Or perhaps I'm just bitter because this ruins my trip to Jordanelle this week. 

(03-28-2020, 03:11 PM)fast_randy Wrote: [ -> ]So what about Lincoln Beach at Utah Lake. Bob, couldn't you go down there and launch your boat? Can I (from Idaho) go there?

I could, and so could you.  However, I don't fish it for several reasons, not the least of which is having to haul my boat through almost 100 miles of Wasatch Front traffic during the week during commuter congestion both ways (I don't 'do' weekend fishing unless forced to do so).  Add to that the fact that Utah Lake doesn't have anything I want to fish for this time of year.  Go for it Randy.  Just stay away form the State Park portion of the lake and you'll be fine.  

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(03-28-2020, 03:33 PM)WardDL Wrote: [ -> ]I'm pretty sure my hang tag dose not say "county" parks pass. I say either close them completely, or let the public use them responsibly. There are many residents of Weber county that live closer to Willard than some residents of northern Box Elder. Only allowing county residents to use the parks does not add any level of added safety or responsibility. Or perhaps I'm just bitter because this ruins my trip to Jordanelle this week. 

Take it up with Governor Herbert, Ward.  He's the one that issued the directive.  

And have you EVER seen John Q Public act responsibily?  Yeah; me neither.  

dubob you are the smart one here 
I want to go to Flaming gorge this coming week, my Granddaughter told me I could not go, but I'm going nuts.
I can buy gas and never see any one, would need a room may beable to get in there with out seeing any one, have not called yet.
are could sleep in my truck are boat but  would need a bathroom. 
I go to a store once every two weeks to buy milk,  I see alot more people than I would see fishing.  

But the If is what if I have a Accident. are brake down.   If I buy something it will help some one.

I would like a link or address to respond directly to the great Govenor of Utah 
His directive is to broad and needs public responses.

gov herbs been a lame duck since day 1
feel free to tell him that 4 me
so the bat and pangolin wet market shoppers gave us a virus
much like levitts fams piss poor run hatchory gave the trout one
at the time it was thought to be the end of rainbows
turns out them troot were pretty resilent
i have faith in humans
and like the hat says

if i told you breaking victim less crimes mattered to me in the past
id be lying
Much like the ski resorts closed the inferstructures that could be a viris vector
but the waters and outdoors should never be closed to responsible use
more so in times of uncertainty

We can all still go to Idaho and Wyoming...see you there!

Im with i like trolling
and if bikes arent considered essentail business im unemployed
ill be in browns park this week
and not exposing myself to others in the stand in unemployment line
this was the willard dyke yesterday


I realize its an unseen danger
its much like avalaunches in a way
but where is the virus danger in these pictures
on the rocks? in the air? on the water?
woodchucks got it?
heck i couldnt even find waldo let alone another person within miles
cept for 1 boat i saw
and convesly if i have it and am asymtomatic
who did i endanger?

(03-28-2020, 04:38 PM)doitall5000 Wrote: [ -> ]I would like a link or address to respond directly to the great Govenor of Utah 
His directive is to broad and needs public responses.

Ask, and ye shall receive: https://governor.utah.gov/contact/

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(03-28-2020, 03:55 PM)liketrolling Wrote: [ -> ]dubob you are the smart one here   Wow!  Thanks Robert; but without a doubt there will be some on here who will disagree with you on that call.  ?
I want to go to Flaming gorge this coming week, my Granddaughter told me I could not go, but I'm going nuts.
I can buy gas and never see any one, would need a room may beable to get in there with out seeing any one, have not called yet.
are could sleep in my truck are boat but  would need a bathroom. 
I go to a store once every two weeks to buy milk,  I see alot more people than I would see fishing.  

But the If is what if I have a Accident. are brake down.   If I buy something it will help some one.

Robert, I'd go for it if I were you, granddaughters admonishment not withstanding.  And I'm sure Dirk will be more than happy to have your lodging business at the Villa Inn.  And the Gorge is Federal on both sides of the boarder.  Just make sure you have your WY AIS sticker on your boat and your WY reciprocity stamp with you if you are going to fish the Wyoming side.  It's my understanding that the Lucerne area is ice free at this time.  Have a great time if you go and be sure to post up some fish porn if you're successful.  For some of us, that's as close to a fish as we are likely to get for the next couple of weeks.  

I'm not sure where that leaves me. I'm in Box Elder Cty. I have paid reservations at Hyrum Res for 3 nights starting on May 11th.

(03-28-2020, 12:56 AM)muirco Wrote: [ -> ]Guess I am done fishing for awhile even though I go with my dad and my son only (both I am around every day anyways) because I don't live in a county with a state park with a lake. So depressing! Be safe everyone!

Would this apply to Strawberry? Not a state park, so seems like it's out of scope (although iced). But ice-off is coming.