09-26-2004, 07:48 PM
09-27-2004, 03:50 AM
Hey there riverrunner,
Welcome to BFT. Lots of good fins out there. This board is a tough crowd so you've got to cough up some specifics as to type of water fished, fresh, salt or both, type of waders you use, etc.
May the FORCE be with you. heh heh heh
JapanRon
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Welcome to BFT. Lots of good fins out there. This board is a tough crowd so you've got to cough up some specifics as to type of water fished, fresh, salt or both, type of waders you use, etc.
May the FORCE be with you. heh heh heh
JapanRon
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09-27-2004, 11:56 AM
[cool][#0000ff]Hey riverrunner, welcome aboard. As JR suggested, it is easier for us to provide more specific recommendations if we have a better idea of what kind of fishing you are going to be doing. [/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]Most experienced tubers and 'tooners end up with good quality diving fins, with the adjustable strap heel. There a a jillion kinds available, and you don't have to spend too much to get something serviceable. However, anything under about $40 might be less than you need.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]One of the big considerations is how do the fins fit over your waders/boots. They need to fit snugly enough to keep from coming off, but loosely enough to avoid shutting off the circulation to your feet. I have been using the Mares Plana Avanti fins for quite a few years, and the large soft foot pockets have always been comfortable. (see pics)[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]There are specially designed float tubers' fins that you can lace on over wading boots. They work okay, but do not have a large enough blade to provide great propulsion. Most guys who try them, end up with diving fins.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]Some tubers swear by the "Force Fins", as pictured below. Others swear at them. The ones with the adjustable heel straps work better than the ones that have adjustable straps for fitting over boots.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]Hit a couple of dive shops and look over the selection. Once you find something you like, go shopping online. Often you can find online discount dive shops that sell what you want for half the retail price.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]Hope that helps. Come on back with any specific questions and don't be afraid to divulge your personal info. We try to be helpful here and you won't be flamed or criticized. I suspect you have already come to that conclusion or you would not have registered and come aboard.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]Again, welcome.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]Most experienced tubers and 'tooners end up with good quality diving fins, with the adjustable strap heel. There a a jillion kinds available, and you don't have to spend too much to get something serviceable. However, anything under about $40 might be less than you need.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]One of the big considerations is how do the fins fit over your waders/boots. They need to fit snugly enough to keep from coming off, but loosely enough to avoid shutting off the circulation to your feet. I have been using the Mares Plana Avanti fins for quite a few years, and the large soft foot pockets have always been comfortable. (see pics)[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]There are specially designed float tubers' fins that you can lace on over wading boots. They work okay, but do not have a large enough blade to provide great propulsion. Most guys who try them, end up with diving fins.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]Some tubers swear by the "Force Fins", as pictured below. Others swear at them. The ones with the adjustable heel straps work better than the ones that have adjustable straps for fitting over boots.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]Hit a couple of dive shops and look over the selection. Once you find something you like, go shopping online. Often you can find online discount dive shops that sell what you want for half the retail price.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]Hope that helps. Come on back with any specific questions and don't be afraid to divulge your personal info. We try to be helpful here and you won't be flamed or criticized. I suspect you have already come to that conclusion or you would not have registered and come aboard.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]Again, welcome.[/#0000ff]
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09-27-2004, 12:53 PM
TD,
Been meaning to ask this for awhile. But why would i need a set of fins for a toon. I would think that the Ores would be enough. And being that i am short with shorter legs i wouldn't thing i could get them in the water all that deep.
Thanks for all your help,
James
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Been meaning to ask this for awhile. But why would i need a set of fins for a toon. I would think that the Ores would be enough. And being that i am short with shorter legs i wouldn't thing i could get them in the water all that deep.
Thanks for all your help,
James
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09-27-2004, 01:24 PM
[cool][#0000ff]You don't always need fins with a toon, but most guys like to wear them. They are not only backup power, in case of a lost or broken oar, but they can help provide "hands free" maneuvering when you are trying to maintain position to cast along a shoreline or other fishing honey hole. [/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]Of course, when you wanna "motate", you raise your flippered feet up onto the foot rests and haul on the oars. Or, as more and more 'tooners are doing, you install a trolling motor.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]You do not need much of your legs and feet in the water to get some propulsion with the fins. Obviously, the longer the kicking stroke you can make, the more propulsion you will get. But, for minor positioning adjustments, even short legs can help reduce the need to keep working the oars.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]Of course, when you wanna "motate", you raise your flippered feet up onto the foot rests and haul on the oars. Or, as more and more 'tooners are doing, you install a trolling motor.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]You do not need much of your legs and feet in the water to get some propulsion with the fins. Obviously, the longer the kicking stroke you can make, the more propulsion you will get. But, for minor positioning adjustments, even short legs can help reduce the need to keep working the oars.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]Like everything else, it is a matter of personal preference.[/#0000ff]
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09-27-2004, 04:57 PM
Thanks TD for the info... I think i will get a set and try em out. If nothing else i'll strap em to the toon for just in casers.
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09-27-2004, 07:07 PM
Hey there LilTrout,
If a Great White was nipping at my stern, I'd rather have both modes of propulsion
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If a Great White was nipping at my stern, I'd rather have both modes of propulsion![
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09-27-2004, 10:25 PM
Hey Ron,
I agree i think i would too. But in utah the worst thing chasing after the guys here are tiger musky's... I'm planning on putting my trolling motor on there to. But its not a bad idea... to have a set just in case though.
James
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I agree i think i would too. But in utah the worst thing chasing after the guys here are tiger musky's... I'm planning on putting my trolling motor on there to. But its not a bad idea... to have a set just in case though.
James
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09-27-2004, 10:29 PM
TD,
I have another question for you. When putting a trolling motor on a toon is there anything i need to look at as far as registration. Me and AFDan were talking and wondering since it could be considered a motorized watercraft.
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I have another question for you. When putting a trolling motor on a toon is there anything i need to look at as far as registration. Me and AFDan were talking and wondering since it could be considered a motorized watercraft.
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09-28-2004, 12:08 AM
[cool][#0000ff]Structurally, you have to have a mounting bracket for the motor and a platform for the heavy 12 volt battery.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]Legally, you need to have some means of displaying your id numbers to correspond to how you register it. This means either painting the numbers visibly on your craft, or attaching a wooden slat with the numbers painted or decaled on it. You will receive your numbers at the time you register, just like a car. I think it is only about $11 the first year and $5 the next years, so it is not too expensive.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]Legally, you need to have some means of displaying your id numbers to correspond to how you register it. This means either painting the numbers visibly on your craft, or attaching a wooden slat with the numbers painted or decaled on it. You will receive your numbers at the time you register, just like a car. I think it is only about $11 the first year and $5 the next years, so it is not too expensive.[/#0000ff]
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09-28-2004, 03:10 AM
Hi there your Tubeness,
Don't remember ever hearing your take on if insurance is required on 'registered' (no matter what type) vehicles. Stuff like jet skis and snowmobiles are certainly prone to causing their riders or others injury or worse.
Does ones auto or home insurance cover tubin' 'INCIDENTS'?
In california you gotta have insurance for boats AND their trailers I believe.
and ..... how about your new home state?
JapanRon
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Don't remember ever hearing your take on if insurance is required on 'registered' (no matter what type) vehicles. Stuff like jet skis and snowmobiles are certainly prone to causing their riders or others injury or worse.
Does ones auto or home insurance cover tubin' 'INCIDENTS'?
In california you gotta have insurance for boats AND their trailers I believe.
and ..... how about your new home state?
JapanRon
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09-28-2004, 11:16 AM
[cool][#0000ff]Hey JapanRon, I am guessing that the matter of insurance is a state by state thing. California regulates everything. Utah is a lot more laid back. While there is a requirement for licensing motorized craft, there is nothing in the regs about requiring insurance.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]I suppose that if you rammed a hapless skiboat with your powerful pontoon, you would be liable for damages. However, I don't know whether it would be uncovered or covered by auto or homeowner. [/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]I do not have a powered craft (just one Patpower) so I do not have either registration or insurance issues. Something the motorized 'tooners might wanna check on and get back to us.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]I suppose that if you rammed a hapless skiboat with your powerful pontoon, you would be liable for damages. However, I don't know whether it would be uncovered or covered by auto or homeowner. [/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]I do not have a powered craft (just one Patpower) so I do not have either registration or insurance issues. Something the motorized 'tooners might wanna check on and get back to us.[/#0000ff]
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09-28-2004, 01:37 PM
[cool][#0000ff]This just in from a knowledgeable member of the Utah board:[/#0000ff]
[size 1]Liability insurance is only required on personal watercraft. Personal watercraft is defined as, "...a motorboat that is: (a) less than 16 feet in length; (b) propelled by a water jet pump; and © designed to be operated by a person sitting, standing, or kneeling on the vessel, rather than sitting or standing inside the vessel." Utah Code Section 73-18-2(12)
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[size 1]Liability insurance is only required on personal watercraft. Personal watercraft is defined as, "...a motorboat that is: (a) less than 16 feet in length; (b) propelled by a water jet pump; and © designed to be operated by a person sitting, standing, or kneeling on the vessel, rather than sitting or standing inside the vessel." Utah Code Section 73-18-2(12)
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