I talked with my doctor yesterday and he said he caught a Dolly Varden in Strawberry while trolling with a guide. I have never heard of Dolly Varden in Strawberry or in Utah for that matter. I caught one in BC years ago and they have them in Oregon and Washington, but Utah?
Can anyone shed any light on this?
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My first thought was it might be a brook trout because they do look a bit like a dolly, but the doctor didn't have any pictures. Apparently it was a good sized fish and the guide told him there were a few in the Reservoir. News to me! I was just wondering if anyone knew of Dolly Varden in Utah. They are scarce in Oregon but they arer trying to bring them back because they are a native species there and would occur naturally in the Snake and Columbia systems as well as the coastal rivers. I hope no one has been introducing them illeagally or any other fish for that matter.
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I don't think that it would be too hard for a bucket bio to slip a few brookies back into Strawberry (assuming that they aren't already present somehow in the upper drainage....which is doubtful). The river just below the dam on the Soldier Creek side is packed full of brookies. In theory, it might just require a quick run up the dam to toss a brookie (or a brown for that matter) into the lake. It would probably be hard for a fish to survive such a trip though.
DISCLAIMER: I am in no way condoning or encouraging this action, I'm just saying that it is probably feasible.
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I have caught both a brookie and a brown after the last poisoning. They do exist they are just rare. I actually wish there were more brookies. They are easy to catch they are beautiful and maybe they could help compete with the chubs.
FYI both brookies I caught were over 20" so if you can find them it is worth it. I think the berry is alot like Henry's only it doesn't ever winterkill. It could probably produce some monster cutts, brookies, and rainbows if we would just let them grow up.
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hey pat actually a bull trout is a individual strain all on its own now. it used to be called a dolly in slang especially in idaho and montana. its a individual species just like a cutt or rainbow.
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I'm not a biologist although I tried playing one for a while so I know a few.
Anyway. No, the state does not stock Dolly Varden period. They don't even have a source for them. Dolly Varden are a threatened species so even if they could find a source for them, federal and state agencies would snatch them all up first.
Just FYI, Dolly Varden and bull trout are now considered distinct species.
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The difference between a dolly varden and bull trout is one is sea run fish while the other is landlocked.Like a steelhead and rainbow,or a sockeye and kokenee salmon. The bull trout is the land locked species. Very unlikely either is in utah unless somebody went to the hasel of trying to transport one to utah and release it. Closest place around here to catch bull trout is northern Idaho or Montana.
just for your info a bull trout is not a landlocked dolly varden. and not all dolly varden are sea run. they are two distinct species. they both belong to the char family that is what they have in common as well as colorization and spotting. the heads are totally different on both species as far as characteristics.
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Never said thay were the same species. Closely related, but differenet they are. I was just saying they are closely related but over years of evoltion they became different srecies due to geographical locations. Same as a steelhead and rainbow, or a sockeye and kokenee salmon. All similar but different from its their closely related cousin. On another note I wish Bull trout were in Strawberry. They are some mean salomoids. Use to fish for them up on the Flathead river in Montana. Almost as pretty as a brookie. Alot bigger and meaner than a brookie.Never understood why they are thought of as trash fish.
link will clear it up for you. [url "http://www.fishingwithrod.com/fishing_0601_04.html"]http://www.fishingwithrod.com/fishing_0601_04.html[/url]
this explains the relationship and that they in fact are not evolved from similar species other than being part of the char family.
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Thanks I stand corrected. I even learned something new today.They all did evolve over time from the first char out there years ago. So I am not entirely wrong. Just kidding.
i wasnt trying to be confrontational. i thought it was interesting and since i didnt know all the fact either i started some research. i am amazed finding out all the trout salmon and char species i have never heard of. you might like this link also.
[url "http://filaman.uni-kiel.de/identification/specieslist.cfm?famcode=76&areacode"]http://filaman.uni-kiel.de/identification/specieslist.cfm?famcode=76&areacode[/url]=
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Your link did not work.If we only had the time and money to go fish for every species out there.
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i dont know why but the = on the end wont add to the link. but if you cut and past the link into your browser and add the = to the address then it will work. and no doubt if i had the money oh how life would be great.
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