hey guys and gals. i have been having some trouble casting the flyrod from my tube. any tips to help me get in the "groove". also i would like to fish more wollys on my flyrod. in order to fish a bugger effectivly should i strip the line or would backtrolling move the bugger enough to trigger a strike. any extra help on the matter would be appreciated as well. thanks for all the help
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[font "Comic Sans MS"][black][size 3]What kind of problems are you encountering?[/size][/black][/font]
[font "Comic Sans MS"][black][size 3]Throwing a bugger out, kicking backwards and twitching are really good ways to trigger bites.[/size][/black][/font]
[font "Comic Sans MS"][black][size 3]I will be going to Strawberry the 14th or 15th or both (only weekend I am not working).[/size][/black][/font]
[font "Comic Sans MS"][black][size 3]If you can get up there then, love to meet up with you. Myself, the ol' man and a bunch of good ol boys are going for a get to gether so there will be a lot of help.[/size][/black][/font]
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that souns like a plan, i might definatly be able to do that, seing as how it is just up the road from me. the problems i encounter are mostly with me casting, my fly hits my pole, or the line. i never have this problem when im in the river, only in the tube. it gets frustrating because i seem to spend more time tryign to figure out how to get my line untangled without completly dunking my reel. since i fish out of a donut style tube i am not the fastest kicker out there. does the speed that i kick have much to do with triggering bites, or is it the twitching?
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[font "Comic Sans MS"][black][size 3]Two suggestions. Shorten your stroke, you don't need to cast 50' on the stillwater, and try casting slightly to the side.[/size][/black][/font]
[font "Comic Sans MS"][black][size 3]Minor problem, can be fixed in no time.[/size][/black][/font]
[font "Comic Sans MS"][black][size 3]I will give a shout Friday the 13th AHHHHHHH! on which day and maybe we can all meet up. I plan on making a day of it with the Weber and burgers![/size][/black][/font]
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how much line should i fling out for buggers? that is a subject that has always
me. and is there a difference when usung sinking line? which do you prefer for buggers? thanks for answering all these questions.
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fishboy2, when on stillwater I almost always use some kind of sinking. I have got lucky a couple of times with a dry on Strawberry which was AWESOME!
I use Density Compensated (which means it sinks uniformally and no belly) Intermediate, Type II, Type III, Type V and a depth charge 200 grain. Mostly a type II and My depth. With a sinking line, plus with big bugs, slow your cast way down. Give that weight time to straighten out on both front and back.
I cast maybe 30 to 50' out and most time let it sink while I kick back. There is times that I will throw and start stripping very quickly, but not usually on the Berry. Like I said, I have most luck at 30' deep, which means cast, start peeling line out while kicking and let sink. I will go almost to my backing.
I do have a fish finder on my toon that tells me how deep they are hanging which helps alot, but I am one of those off the bottom or right on top people LOL
On Strawberry, try out about 75' from shore, whatever sinking line you use, cast out and peel more line letting it sink. Then with a couple of quick and one long strips, hold on. It always works for me.
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[cool][#0000ff]You have already received some great advice from one of our experts on the board. The only thing I will add is some reinforcement to the suggestion about not trying to go for distance.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]One of the great things about tubing and tuning is that it allows you to get more up close and personal to the fish, without spooking them. Being able to make shorter, more accurate and tighter loop casts will not only put you over more fish, but will let you work your flies more effectively too. Furthermore, the less line you have out, the better you will feel the take and the more positive hooksets you will get.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]The most obvious difference between wading or fishing the shoreline...and tubing...is the height of your casting arm while you are fishing. Since you sit lower in the tube, you simply can't keep as much line in the air as when you are casting from a higher position. And, since you do not have your feet firmly planted (in a tube) your leverage is slightly different and that can affect your timing and the force you put into the forward cast.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]My recommendation is to take the tube and flyrod out on the water for some casting practice. Go back to basics for awhile and start with some short casting, working your way up to 30 to 50 feet, until you can make nice casts with fewer "wrapups". In most fishing situations on our lakes, you should never have to cast any farther than that anyway, unless you are just trying to show off. The fish will not be impressed.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]You should be able to cast naturally, while fishing, and not have to focus on the basics instead of fishing.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]As far as the action on the flies, let the fish tell you what they want. That can change from day to day, or hour to hour. Vary the depth and speed of your retrieve until you find what works. There are a million different ways to fish a bugger..."zip strip", slow and steady, long lift, "shivver lift" and even "dead stick"...allowing it to just slow sink or even rest on the top or bottom. It is amazing how many times a big ol trout will just swim up and slurp in a motionless bugger.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]Take advantage of the goddess lady's offer if you can. I'm sure you will benefit by the experience.[/#0000ff]
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You can practise, by taking a chair and sitting down and try casting. Tubes are way different and I do think a little prctise can help. You got the bags on the tube plus sitting a little above water level can be tough, so as in anything...PRACTISE.
I agree with the MASTER TD, and he has been there and done that (some stuff I can only dream of)
Short is the ticket, but at the Berry I do go long or any lake that I know has them big boy's and girls, because they didn't get that big without getting a few hooks. With all the line out and a good flexed rod, they will set the hook themself.
Two different tech here for you and they both work, now it is up to you to see what works for you. A good example that there is more than one way to skin a CAT........FISH LOL[laugh]
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Specially haresears!
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thaks for the help TD and FG. you rock!!!! haha. hopefully i can get a ten pounded on my fly rod. and to pass such a sweet offer up about the berry with FG would be a travesty, i will be there.
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