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So I'm going to take a break from my normal insulting, bashing, obnoxious posting style. Besides, theres no fuel for the fire around here right now Sad

Anyway this got forwarded to me and I'm having a hard time beliveing it. First I cant imagine an elk getting this big, and second I haven't heard a buzz about it in the hunting community.

The pic looks real enough to my untrained eye but maybe someone knows how to spot a doctered photo ?

I dont mean to be such a skeptic, it just dosen't seem possible, but if that thing is real... WOW

I want one...

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So I'm going to take a break from my normal insulting, bashing, obnoxious posting style. Besides, theres no fuel for the fire around here right now Sad [/reply]

Don't be so hasty! I like you just the way you are.

Thats one hell of an impressive animal! (If it's real)
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It's real alright. It was shot in Quebec last month. It scored 466 B/C points. Now B/C found out it was shot in a high fence Elk ranch and it will no longer be considered for scoring. They get real big when you hand feed them corn and beer.

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IFG,

Sorry Bro, I should have included this in the original post...

I thought the same thing, I read about the bull you are talking about but never saw pics...

Here is the text from the original email:

"This Elk was killed with a bow in the Selway-Bitterroot Wilderness. He green scored 575" and should net out at about 530" non typical. He has and unbelievable outside spread of 79". This is the biggest bull ever taken with any weapon."
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The title of the email was "New World Record Elk"

I'm guessing Selway-Bitterroot would be Idaho ? I haven't busted out a map to find a close town but I'm sure this would be big local news.
[left]But 575 green ? that just sounds impossible. I wonder if this is some doctered pic of that Quebec bull.
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Here you go from a few threads below yours:

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I am calling BS and saying Photoshop!
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The bull is real. He was fed growth hormones from a the time he was born. There were some pics in a previous post with him eating out of a dog dish with the fence in the background.[Sad] Either way you look at it, he is a monster. Just too bad he wasn't a legit kill for scoring.
I have many friends who hunt the Bitt. Selway and the biggest bull they have seen or shot in many years of hunting was 379 even. Take it or leave it.
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Looks like the same elk to me.
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[black]Guide Tony Barber, left, confirmed that this bull elk was not killed in Idaho, but rather on a game farm in Quebec. (Internet photo )

Rich Landers
The Spokesman-Review
October 5, 2006

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[black]The latest hunting-related fib to come across my computer screen is a photo of two hunters with a monster elk accompanied by this message:

"This Elk was killed with a bow in the Selway-Bitterroot Wilderness. He green scored 575 .... He has an unbelievable outside spread of 79 inches. This is the biggest bull ever taken with any weapon."

The reference to the Selway is the first clue that at least some of the information is bogus.

"That was a big red flag to us," said Brad Compton, Idaho Fish and Game Department big-game manager who also had received the digital image. "That would be 150 points bigger than any bull that's ever come out of the Selway. It's too farfetched."

"Anybody who knows anything about Selway elk could take one look at that bull and know that information is wrong," said Ryan Hatfield of the Boone and Crockett Club in Missoula. Hatfield, who just finished researching and publishing a book about trophy elk taken in Idaho, said he'd received at least 150 e-mails regarding the so-called Selway elk in the past few days.

After some sleuthing on Tuesday and a tip from a game rancher in Riggins, I found the source of the photo and the bull: Laurentian Wildlife Estate, which has operated as a shooter-bull ranch for six years near Mont Tremblant, Quebec, Canada.

In a telephone interview, Laurentian manager Tony Barber (at left in the photo) said his California client killed the bull earlier this year inside the 1,000-acre estate, which is enclosed by a game-proof fence to hold the domestically produced elk and red deer.

The elk is a Manitoba strain, not the Rocky Mountain subspecies native to Idaho, Barber said while offering the following details.[/black]
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The bull was 10 years old and weighed 595 pounds. Its non-typical antlers had 12 points on one side, 9 on the other with an outside spread of 79 inches.

The bull has been monitored closely as it matured. "We picked up its shed antlers last year and they measured 516 (Boone and Crockett points)," Barber said.

Here are other numbers to ponder:

Barber said the bull's Boone and Crockett score is at least 560 green, that is, before the drying and shrinkage required for official scoring. (Two unofficial measurers scored it 566 and 561 green, he said.)

For comparison, the Boone and Crockett world record bull, found floating dead in Upper Arrow Lake, British Columbia, scored 465 2/8.

The biggest fair-chase bull to be taken by a hunter came from Arizona. It scored 450 6/8.

Cost to hunt elk on the Quebec shooter-bull operation starts at $4,900, but prices for trophy bulls are negotiated, as Barber put it, "into the high five-digits."

If the unofficial measurements hold up, the bull's dry-score antlers "would be the biggest ever taken by a hunter," Barber said.[/black]
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Most sportsmen, however, take exception to his reference to "hunter."

Indeed, sportsmen who hunt the old-fashioned way for elk that run wild and free won't have to compete in the official North American record books against this farm-raised specimen.

"Boone and Crockett does not keep hunting records of animals that come from behind escape-proof fencing," Hatfield said.
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