Fishing Forum

are they alowed on east canyon?
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[font "Times New Roman"][size 3]Here is the rule that was passed in July of 2004. The rule states that you can only gain access by the boat ramp. There is a chance that you may get a ticket if you access the ice other ways with a OHV.[/size][/font]
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[size 3]R651. Natural Resources, Parks and Recreation.[/size]
[size 3]R651-411. OHV Use in State Parks.[/size]
[size 3]R651-411-1. Definitions.[/size]
[size 3](1) "OHV" means "off-highway vehicle" and includes the following vehicle types:[/size]
[size 3](a) Four-wheel drive automobiles or trucks;[/size]
[size 3](b) All-terrain vehicles (ATVs) designed to carry one or two passengers; and[/size]
[size 3]© Snowmobiles.[/size]
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[size 3]R651-411-2. OHV Use-Restrictions.[/size]
[size 3](1) OHVs are to be used only in designated areas.[/size]
[size 3](2) Designated ice areas for OHV use are only those ice areas that are accessed via the board ramps to public ice fishing areas. These areas are at Bear Lake, East Canyon, Escalante, Hyrum, Jordanelle, Millsite, Otter Creek, Palie, Piute, Red Fleet, Rockport, Scofield, Starvation, Steinaker and Yuba state parks.[/size]
[size 3](3) Responsibility for any accidents or problems while using OHVs in state parks rests with the user.[/size]
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[size 3]KEY: off-highway vehicles[/size]
[size 3]July 2,2004[/size]
[size 3]41-22-10[/size]
[size 3]63-11-17[/size]
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So, I interpit this to say that if I am at Bear lake, They only place that I could take my atv or Snowmobile onto the ice When it is froze over is to go on only at the dedicated boat ramps. Well, if true, That really sucks!

I have always gone onto bear lake right down off the hill from my place in the winters past. And I would imagine that I will continue to do the same thing in the future.

East Canyon, There are not alot of places that you can enter onto the ice from places that there are room enough to park as to unload a bike or sled.

Guess we answered this question.
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Translation: They want you to "access" near the ramps so you pay the entrance fee. They are worried you will go to a remote location of the lake, access it from there, and they will lose their $5!
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How true How true.
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I’m not the one that spends my life trying to interpret laws. However in talking to the director of the State Parks at the time this amendment was made he stated this applies to public land not private land. State of Utah rules state that all public land areas are closed to OHVs unless opened by the government agency managing the land. Most land managed by the Forest Service is open to OHV use on dirt roads or trails. Most reservoirs are owned by the Bureau of Reclamation and managed by the local water district. State Parks have a contract with the Bureau Reclamation to run a State Park on the land. The question I have never had answered constantly that I have asked “Is the water part of the State Park?” I’ve been told for most reservoirs it is YES up to the high water mark land above the high water mark is BOR land unless it is private land or a State Park. BOR has give permission to grant access of OHV by State Park land however they will not allow OHVs on the land they manage. It should be OK to gain access to lakes with a State Park by private property.

Other lakes not managed by State Parks may or may not have the same rules. For instants Lost Creek is in limbo. State Parks will not lay claim to it, the BOR says no OHV access, however they allow them on the road for property owner who own property above the reservoir. So if you ride on the road to access your property it’s OK however if you ride on off the road you will receive a ticket. The only agency that can enforce the rules are the local sheriff and State Parks.

Lakes where the property around the lake is managed by the Forests Service it is usually ok to ride around the lake and on the ice unless posted other wise.

Good luck and don't get caught breaking the law.
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thanks for the enfo.have been afraid to take sleds there since some one told me it was illegal.
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[] Thanks for the interpitation Paul.
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The other reason that the parks & rec want the lakes accessed from the ramp only is the impact of both the vehicles and the tow vehicles with trailers.
Rockport is an example. Persons who park on the west side and drive thier snowmobiles or 4 wheelers down to the lake destroy vegetation and create packed trails that erode in the spring thaw causing gullies and more difficult walking access.
Then there is the parking, many of the public access pull-off parking areas are small and were never ment to have vehicles with trailers attached to them parked. It restricts the # of vehicles that can use the pull off.
By making the access at launch ramps only the parks knows there will be a parking lot big enough for the trailers nearby.

It does get old hearing the whining from those who don't want to pay $5 for the use of our parks while spending $50 on gas for the 30K truck pulling 10K worth of licenced, insured OHV's. If you want to live cheap, live cheap, don't cry and moan about $5. Did you know there are heated restrooms at most launch ramps in the winter?
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besides that if ya have a season pass for willard you are all set.[]
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Were you there this spring for my pass buying fiasco?

Debit machine was giving them problems and it charged me $450 for my annual pass. They straightened it out when the banks opened.
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