Ok so what give's red disaper's under water? why are thay selling bleeding bait hook's at a little extra if thay disaper and what is with the cajun red line why red? I just think it's more bs to hook the fisherman not the fish.What do all you pro's think? FISH[crazy]
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"[size 1]I just think it's more bs to hook the fisherman not the fish."..[/size] Yep..
The shade of red merely turns to grey after about 30 feet deep.
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i agree ash,
it is proven that red turns gray within a matter of only a few feet, and then turn black soon after that. so, i dont think the bleeding hooks are going to be of any advantage over black hooks when used deeper than a few feet. maybe toplining them could show some benifits.
as far as the line goes, i think they claim that the red disappearing makes it invisible to fish. but, being red, its highly visible above water... i dont buy this. red will turn quickly to gray. do i want gray line? no. then quickly red turns to black, within the first 25 feet or so down i believe. why do i want a black line? red doesnt disappear at depths less than about 50 feet... it just appears black. then, when their is no light at more than 50 feet the color of your line doesnt matter. unless it is flourescent blue, chartreause, or glow, its not going to be seen anyways!
one side note... if the red is a true flourescent it will survive this color shift deeper into the water, but im not aware of any bleeding hooks on the market that are true flourescents.
red line = absolutely not for me! stick with flouro for invisibility... or braid with a flouro leader
red hooks = as long as they are gami or vmc they could be any color... i dont care, they are still going to catch fish if attached to the right lure!
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Ya got that right guys. Somewhere I heard that over 50% of the fishing stuff for sale is to catch fishermen & the rest depend a lot on the skill of the user.
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i busted a gutt when i saw that yesterday on cable. glad some one else was laffing to.
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Its probably a lot of marketing but there's a difference between the translucent line and a solid red hook that no light passes through. Its the translucent red that disappears, not the solid hooks.
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you may be right... and thats probably the angle cajun red is playing. but, i still dont buy it! maybe im too hard headed!
has anyone actually used the stuff?
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ya I think I will just stick with me old P-Line just more bs to snag the man.........
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My brother bought some of that Cajun line a couple years back. There were 4 of us at rockport slaying the perch and trout. My brother had only caught 1 or2 fish and the rest of us couldn't keep them off. So we tried a little experiment with his line. We tied on about 10 feet of a mono leader from another pole and within 2 minutes he started catching fish.
I just bought a trolling setup last year that had some Cajun line on it and I used it a few times at willard and caught fish just as regularly as the other poles. The difference is I have 10' of flurocarbon leader on it and willard is not the cleanest water in the state. I have not taken that line off yet but by the time the wipers are hitting I will have a braid on there instead.
Bottom line: I have it and have used it, but I wouldn't go buy more of it.
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thanks for sharing that. i think you confirmed what we had all assumed.
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[cool]I'm surprised BassAckward hasn't chimed in on this one, but since he hasn't, I'll share our story on this from the ice season before this one...
BassAckward, CBR, littlejohn and I believe that the red cajun ice line doesn't work worth a damn, and here's why: Last year at Hunington (our first ice trip of the year T-Day weekend '05) Mike's friend Littlejohn was using this crap on his setup and he got a few bites but we were all kicking his butt in number of bites and fish on the ice, so after a couple of hours of that, we finally came to the conclusion that it was his line that wasn't invisible enough under the water so we made him switch rigs, and he IMMEDIATELY started doing as well as the rest of us, and proceeded to kick our butts the rest of the day as he and CBR were getting high off the carbon monoxide fumes in their shelter, but that's another story for another day...
Bottom line, red line SUCKS and you'll never see me or any of the other three with it again. As for red hooks, I do believe they DO make a positive difference, at least sometimes and in shallower water. I think they work better at Mantua, and places like that because it does look like the fish (lure) is bleeding and injured, and that is irresistable at times....
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I hate to buck the tide, but... As many of you know, in a prior life I sold advertising for a fishing mag. I had the opportunity to try any lines I wanted. One of the last lines I tried was Cajun Red. I usually outfish the people I am fishing with or around. Maybe its not the line, maybe it is. I don't know. It sure doesn't hinder the catching. I use it at the Berry, (clear water) and at Utah Lake, with excellent results. Contrary to a previous comment, it is difficult to see when it is out of the water as well. I like it for several reasons. I believe it has less memory than most lines. It is extremely resistant to abrasion. I have never had it break at a knot. And I can use a lighter test than I normally would. I went from 17# test to 12# test for catfish at UL. When casting distance is necessary even 10' makes a huge difference. I also feel that I have fewer birds nests since changing lines. I have approx. 15 rods that I use on a regular basis. For ice fishing for trout and perch, to Willard and Powell for wipers and stripers and anything inbetween. All of my rods are spooled with Cajun Red from 2# to 20#. People who know me know that I don't scrimp when it comes to quality of my fishing tackle. So a 1# spool for $6.99 just leaves me more mullah for nicer "stuff".
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I have had a similar experience at the Berry this year. A friend of mine was using Cajun, and he was not getting hit AT ALL. Meanwhile, the rest of us were getting constant action. After making him switch, he began catching fish. I think it had everything to do with the line. [
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Red hooks do work sometimes, but not in all stuations.
What do you need colored line for? If I can see the line then the fish will see it as well!
Why use a colored line, when there is no reason for it?
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I personally really like the cajun line. It's the strongest stuff I've ever used and it's only 4 lb test.
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The Cajun line was designed to be less visible at specific depths. Invisible past those depths.
The line was originally designed for the harsh environments of the Ocean. The color spectrum works a little different in the salt water than it does in freshwater.
Cajun line was Gods answer to a low abrasion and lower memory line after man had already screwed up and made Yozuri.
As the color spectrum compares to the visibility factor, you can sum it all up with the rainbow.
Infra red, red, orange, yellow, green, blue, violet, ultra violet.
2 of these colors we cannot see, neither can the fish. Infra red and Ultra Violet.
All the other colors are only visible in "White Light" as we know it. That same light is transfered through out the depths of water until there is no more light at the deepest depths.
Where does that all tie into fishing and the color of the lures??
The colors of the lures will refract less light at certain depths.
Has anyone ever noticed why some of us bass fishermen will use darker colors in stained water?? Exactly. Less light refraction therefore different colors are necessary for visibility.
Clear water, lighter colors, stained water, darker colors.
I fish both fresh and salt water. Fresh water to 300' in some of my lakes and saltwater to 360'max depth(by regulation).
When I am fishing deeper, I am using the darker colors for visibility. There are times when I am even using Black jigs with Black Plastics. The fish just see them differently.
Red line and red hooks for the freshwater fishermen boil down to catching fishermen not fish. I have scared more Trout, LMB, Smallies, Perch and Bluegill/Sunfish with red hooks than I have using black oxide hooks.
In the Saltwater there are several species that scare as well with the red hooks and others that are attracted to it.
Red, Yellow, Orange, Blue, Green and Puple hooks are all available on the West Coast. They have caught more fishermen than they have fish.
my 2 dollars and 59cents worth on the hooks that I have tested.[cool]
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i use cajun red for trolling and use 20lb test and have never broken off,
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[black][size 3]I have several reels spooled up with Cajun. I have not had any problems with it as of yet. It does seem to have less memory than some other lines, and it is pretty abrasion resistant - at least in my experience. [/size][/black]
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[black][size 3]As far as it being a hinderance for catching fish ... When I have a problem catching fish, I can usually identify the problem as ME - not the equipment. When I do things right, I catch fish. It's that simple.[/size][/black]
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[black][size 3]Besides, I also usually use leaders of flourocarbon that are basically invisible underwater and the main line color seldom is of any influence. BTW - I often use HI_VIS color (yellow and green) lines for many applications and sometimes, like for walleye jigging, I even tie HI-VIS green right to the jig.[/size][/black]
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[black][size 3]One thing about the Red Cajun that folks should be aware of (if they have never used it before) ... If you fish at night for catfish (as I like to do) Red Cajun line is very difficult to see when trying to tie knots on hooks in low light. The color Red does seem disappear in lower light levels even above water - or maybe it's just MY eyes.[/size][/black]
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A friend of mine fishes Walleye tournaments. He insists that red hooks outfish plain. A lot of pro-fishermen use red hooks for bass and walleye. In shallow water it may make a difference. I dont buy it but he gets his lures for free. I have some red-lipped, red hooked shad raps in my box this year, we shall see the results in 2 more months when the ice melts !!!!
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