03-01-2007, 12:28 AM
03-01-2007, 12:30 AM
Wow...now that a big ass mac
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03-01-2007, 12:45 AM
Unbelievable.
Do you guys think they get that big in Bear Lake?
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Do you guys think they get that big in Bear Lake?
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03-01-2007, 12:47 AM
NEVER. NOT EVEN IN THE GORGE.
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03-01-2007, 12:49 AM
Hmmm...
I bet there may be a few surprises lurking in the depths of da Bear and da Gorge.
Ya just never know.
That reminds me...does anyone have any stories about the Bear Lake Monster? [
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I bet there may be a few surprises lurking in the depths of da Bear and da Gorge.
Ya just never know.
That reminds me...does anyone have any stories about the Bear Lake Monster? [
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03-01-2007, 01:01 AM
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[size 1]NEVER. NOT EVEN IN THE GORGE.[/size] [/quote]
[font "Comic Sans MS"][black][size 3]I'm not so sure the Gorge couldn't put up a big fish. 70? Who knows? 60? Oh ya, very possible. Bigger than the current state record? ABSOLUTELY![/size][/black][/font]
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[size 1]NEVER. NOT EVEN IN THE GORGE.[/size] [/quote]
[font "Comic Sans MS"][black][size 3]I'm not so sure the Gorge couldn't put up a big fish. 70? Who knows? 60? Oh ya, very possible. Bigger than the current state record? ABSOLUTELY![/size][/black][/font]
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03-01-2007, 01:24 AM
I would agree with never in Bear Lake but why not the Gorge? There is plenty to eat in there and plenty of room to grow. Personally I would settle for catching just one no matter the size!
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03-01-2007, 01:41 AM
WE BOTH KNOW SOMEONE WHO HAS CAGHT A BIGGER FISH THAN THE STATE RECORD. BUT HE WILL NEVER POST ABOUT IT. A 60 NO DOUT. A 70 I DONT THINK SO.
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03-01-2007, 01:55 AM
it could happen wish it would to me lol[]Fish
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03-01-2007, 02:06 AM
I think that a 70lb'er out of the gorge is possible, just not very probable.Never know what really lurks in that deep cold water.
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03-01-2007, 03:54 PM
I think it's very possible for the gorge to put out a 70 lb. mac. the state record now is over 50 lbs. and that was caught a while back.
if there's 1 over 50 I'm sure there's more. just my dime. later chuck
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if there's 1 over 50 I'm sure there's more. just my dime. later chuck
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03-01-2007, 05:11 PM
If my memory serves me well, in the early 90's, there were two reports going around the Gorge.
One was that the fish & game dept. of either Utah or Wyoming had gill netted a 70 pounder. The other story was that a dead 70 pound mack had been found in the area of swim beach.
Since that time, I haven't heard of any really large fish coming from the Gorge. It seems that most of the real large fish were taken in the late 80's and early 90/s.
The same thing happened to the large brown trout.
In the late 80's it was possible to catch large browns in Horseshoe canyon and in the water at both ends. They were in large number, and several were caught, but they have all gone.
I suspect that because the food chain has changed at the Gorge it has had an effect on the size of fish. The appearance of the Turbot will have a similar effect on the fishing there.
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One was that the fish & game dept. of either Utah or Wyoming had gill netted a 70 pounder. The other story was that a dead 70 pound mack had been found in the area of swim beach.
Since that time, I haven't heard of any really large fish coming from the Gorge. It seems that most of the real large fish were taken in the late 80's and early 90/s.
The same thing happened to the large brown trout.
In the late 80's it was possible to catch large browns in Horseshoe canyon and in the water at both ends. They were in large number, and several were caught, but they have all gone.
I suspect that because the food chain has changed at the Gorge it has had an effect on the size of fish. The appearance of the Turbot will have a similar effect on the fishing there.
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03-01-2007, 06:06 PM
NEVER SAW THOSE REPORTS. I GUESS ANYTHING IS POSS. AND I HAVE HERD THAT THE BURBOTS ARE SHOWING UP IN THE BELLIES OF THE LAKERS. SHARED INFO FROM SOME ONE WHO HAS HARVESTED A FEW FOR RESEARCH. IF THEY SHOW UP IN ABUNDANCE THE LAKERS WILL PROBLEY FATTEN UP SOME MOORE. ID SHURE LOVE TO FEEL THE HEAD SHAKES FROM A 60 OR 70 POUNDER. SOME DAY I WILL.
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03-01-2007, 08:40 PM
The problem with Flaming Gorge now compared to the time when the state record was caught is bait fish...at that time, chubs were still an abundant prey option for lakers. Now, chubs are virtually gone and large lake trout have turned to Kokanee and rainbows as their principal forage fish.
How burbot changes the predator-prey relationships and fish dynamics of Flaming Gorge are yet to be seen. But, I am one who firmly believes that burbot will have a negative impact on the fishery: adding one more predator to an already prey-starved fishery cannot be good. A few large lakers may prey on some of the smaller burbot; however, as evidenced by the quickly increasing population of burbot, burbot are more likely to prey on small lake trout, rainbow trout, and kokanee. If burbot put a dent in the kokanee and rainbow populations, that leaves less fish for lakers. And, the burbot could do this at the same time they are putting a dent in the laker population. I worry that Flaming Gorge will eventually be a burbot lake...
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How burbot changes the predator-prey relationships and fish dynamics of Flaming Gorge are yet to be seen. But, I am one who firmly believes that burbot will have a negative impact on the fishery: adding one more predator to an already prey-starved fishery cannot be good. A few large lakers may prey on some of the smaller burbot; however, as evidenced by the quickly increasing population of burbot, burbot are more likely to prey on small lake trout, rainbow trout, and kokanee. If burbot put a dent in the kokanee and rainbow populations, that leaves less fish for lakers. And, the burbot could do this at the same time they are putting a dent in the laker population. I worry that Flaming Gorge will eventually be a burbot lake...
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03-01-2007, 09:30 PM
I HERD OF A 20 POUND LAKER WITH A 23 INCH BURBOT IN ITS BELLY. THATS A SMALL LAKER. IT ALSO HAD A 19 INCH RAIN BOW IN IT HALF DECOMPOSED. LAKERS WILL EAT WHAT EVER THER IS TO EAT. IT COULD SERVE THE FISHERY IN ASSISTING THINNING OUT THE LAKERS POPULATION OF SMALLER FISH. ITS A TIME WILL TELL THING I GUESS.
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03-01-2007, 09:42 PM
[reply]I HERD OF A 20 POUND LAKER WITH A 23 INCH BURBOT IN ITS BELLY. THATS A SMALL LAKER. IT ALSO HAD A 19 INCH RAIN BOW IN IT HALF DECOMPOSED. [/reply]
I wouldn't argue this; it definitely is possible. But, with the vast increase in the population of burbot, it is very likely that the burbot's population is not being affected very much by lakers.
Remember, Flaming Gorge can be compared to a bucket that can only hold so many marbles. If the bucket is increasingly filling up with burbot, less space is available for lake trout, rainbow trout, kokanee, and smallmouth. Lake trout fishermen should be exceptionally alarmed at the rate the burbot are increasing because they not only take up biomass space, but they are even more effective at predation of small fish than lake trout.
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I wouldn't argue this; it definitely is possible. But, with the vast increase in the population of burbot, it is very likely that the burbot's population is not being affected very much by lakers.
Remember, Flaming Gorge can be compared to a bucket that can only hold so many marbles. If the bucket is increasingly filling up with burbot, less space is available for lake trout, rainbow trout, kokanee, and smallmouth. Lake trout fishermen should be exceptionally alarmed at the rate the burbot are increasing because they not only take up biomass space, but they are even more effective at predation of small fish than lake trout.
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03-01-2007, 09:57 PM
GUESS WE WILL HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE. WHAT THE FISHING GODS HAVE INSTORE.
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03-01-2007, 10:17 PM
WOW!!! that is amazing! i am in awe!
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03-02-2007, 03:16 AM
WB,I whole heartily agree with you.I too am worried that the gorge with turn into a burbot filled lake,that will having but a negative effect on the fishery as it is now.
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03-02-2007, 05:34 PM
I'm not so sure you need to worry that the Gorge will 'turn into a Burbot filled lake".... I think it is already a Burbot filled lake! Be worried about what effect this will have on the Kokanee and Mac fisheries. We caught 30+ lings the other evening in less than 5 hours, and I am by no means a Ling fishing expert. I have heard reports of people catching Lings everywhere from Firehole to Linwood Bay. Nearly every ling I caught was full of crawdads.
I'd guess that the channel catfish and SMB fisheries will be the first to suffer from the Lings. But then my catch rate on Macs is down so far this winter. Maybe that could just be a personal problem.
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I'd guess that the channel catfish and SMB fisheries will be the first to suffer from the Lings. But then my catch rate on Macs is down so far this winter. Maybe that could just be a personal problem.
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