09-05-2007, 07:54 PM
09-05-2007, 08:06 PM
I was told that the Director decided to pull the plug because of some controversy amoung a few members, if you would like to voice your opinion like I am going to do his e-mail address is jimkarowitz@utah.gov I suggest you let him know how you feel.
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09-05-2007, 08:08 PM
It is my opinion that the message boards became a liability the state figured they could do without. With some of the arguing and fighting that can happen on the internet they probably got too many complaints and threats of legal action. I don't think it had anything to do with the fishing section, there was a pretty controversial topic on the hunting dog section. While it didn't advocate the use of violence in the training of dogs, it did walk a line that didn't fit in well with many peoples opinions. Especially inlight of Mr Vick's much publisized mal-treatment of dogs. I don't believe this was the only thing that shut the boards down, but it was probably the proverbial straw.
This is only my opinion and not based on any inside information. It is pure speculation on my part.
IFG
This is only my opinion and not based on any inside information. It is pure speculation on my part.
IFG
09-05-2007, 08:16 PM
+1 to Icefishinggod
That what I heard too.
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That what I heard too.
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09-05-2007, 08:33 PM
That is to bad, I hope that the DWR folks send them over here, I am a junky I need my FIX!
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09-05-2007, 09:24 PM
I was told that it was due to the amount of usage on the servers !! they couldn't handle all the traffic!
doesn't make any sense to me, I think some politician in a suit made the decision, bowing down to someone.
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doesn't make any sense to me, I think some politician in a suit made the decision, bowing down to someone.
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09-05-2007, 10:55 PM
Im still 
about the DWR site.
And the guys that screwed it up should be pimp slapped.
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about the DWR site.And the guys that screwed it up should be pimp slapped.
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09-06-2007, 02:23 AM
Why is the media center covering half of this post?
I can't read some of it.
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I can't read some of it.
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09-06-2007, 02:38 AM
Sad to see those boards go down. Oh well.
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09-06-2007, 02:39 AM
That happens when pictures and avatars are not properly sized. Orvis fixed his avatar so the problem should be fixed now.
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09-06-2007, 02:42 AM
yes it is!
thanks, I thought maybe I had a monitor problem.
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thanks, I thought maybe I had a monitor problem.
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09-06-2007, 02:45 AM
No, it was me having to be smarter than the computer and usually the computer wins.
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09-06-2007, 02:52 PM
There has been talk of this for over a year now!!
Too bad it had to happen
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Too bad it had to happen
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09-06-2007, 04:08 PM
Don't bother sending an e-mail either you just get a generic response. [mad]
Notice
After much discussion, the DWR has decided to terminate the Wildlife
Discussion forums. We have greatly appreciated the interest and
participation from everyone.
Over the past three years the traffic to the forums increased
substantially, and along with that came an increase in the kinds of forum
problems that we felt were incompatible with our role as a government agency.
There was no one single reason or incident that caused us to make this
decision. Instead, it was a tough call that we made over a long period
of time by weighing a number of different issues.
We appreciate the views expressed here over the past several years, and
we look forward to hearing from you and working with you in the
future.
Thank you.
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Notice
After much discussion, the DWR has decided to terminate the Wildlife
Discussion forums. We have greatly appreciated the interest and
participation from everyone.
Over the past three years the traffic to the forums increased
substantially, and along with that came an increase in the kinds of forum
problems that we felt were incompatible with our role as a government agency.
There was no one single reason or incident that caused us to make this
decision. Instead, it was a tough call that we made over a long period
of time by weighing a number of different issues.
We appreciate the views expressed here over the past several years, and
we look forward to hearing from you and working with you in the
future.
Thank you.
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09-06-2007, 04:18 PM
+1 I had the same automated response, way to listen to the taxpayers and licence holders! [
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09-06-2007, 06:35 PM
Cory just sent me this e-mail regarding the possibility of a temporary re-opening of the forum to salvage our in-box information.
Thanks for the note.
I've been very discouraged by it all. My instructions were not only
to shut down the forums but to do so immediately -- any arguments to
the contrary were dismissed. I'm hoping that I'll be able to talk our
upper management into allowing me to reopen the forums in a limited
way to enable people to retrieve their private messages, but I've
gotten no feedback from the corner office yet on that one. I'd
suggest checking the forums link in a day or two to see.
Cory
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Thanks for the note.
I've been very discouraged by it all. My instructions were not only
to shut down the forums but to do so immediately -- any arguments to
the contrary were dismissed. I'm hoping that I'll be able to talk our
upper management into allowing me to reopen the forums in a limited
way to enable people to retrieve their private messages, but I've
gotten no feedback from the corner office yet on that one. I'd
suggest checking the forums link in a day or two to see.
Cory
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09-06-2007, 10:59 PM
So Cory,
Who did the order come from?
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Who did the order come from?
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09-22-2007, 01:05 AM
Yeah, I was really bummed about it too. I typically checked out the posts on their board before heading out to fish.
It is my opinion that cost is the leading factor in the closure of the boards. Either the State was not interested in paying someone to moderate the boards and weed out any posts that were in bad taste, even though the State could set the rules on what they wanted to delete. If the traffic was too much then more hardware would be required.
My property taxes in Utah pay for other peoples kids to go to mediocre schools. My license fees pay for enforcement but most of the enforcement that I see is about alcohol enforcement on boats. When the water cops come up to your boat, do they ask to see your fishing license? No, they are looking for probable cause (number of life jackets, proper lighting, a throwable, etc) to see if you have been drinking.
It is just disappointing that some worthwhile return for my taxes gets cut so more money can be spent on pursuing more revenue for enforcement.
I agree that thoroughly agree that the private sector can do a better job than any government agency. Can you say, school vouchers? The long and short is that it is just a shame that the DWR will not put a referral (weblink) on their webpage to send people here. These boards are so much better. But, you'll never hear about them from the DWR or KSL; the Utah Establishment.
I'm going to send the email to the State guy anyway, just in case they are paying (using my tax dollars) to have someone count the unrest among their subjects.
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It is my opinion that cost is the leading factor in the closure of the boards. Either the State was not interested in paying someone to moderate the boards and weed out any posts that were in bad taste, even though the State could set the rules on what they wanted to delete. If the traffic was too much then more hardware would be required.
My property taxes in Utah pay for other peoples kids to go to mediocre schools. My license fees pay for enforcement but most of the enforcement that I see is about alcohol enforcement on boats. When the water cops come up to your boat, do they ask to see your fishing license? No, they are looking for probable cause (number of life jackets, proper lighting, a throwable, etc) to see if you have been drinking.
It is just disappointing that some worthwhile return for my taxes gets cut so more money can be spent on pursuing more revenue for enforcement.
I agree that thoroughly agree that the private sector can do a better job than any government agency. Can you say, school vouchers? The long and short is that it is just a shame that the DWR will not put a referral (weblink) on their webpage to send people here. These boards are so much better. But, you'll never hear about them from the DWR or KSL; the Utah Establishment.
I'm going to send the email to the State guy anyway, just in case they are paying (using my tax dollars) to have someone count the unrest among their subjects.
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