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I just wanted to come out and say that I am sorry for giving out unfounded information on my part.
I would like to correct things by saying I am not an engineer so, I too went with what I had heard, read and experienced.
There is no difference in Vinyl and Urethane , other than durability, longevity, weight and cost.
For some of you that only get out maybe 2 to 3 times a month, the the longevity, durability and weight is not going to be an issue, although I would check every new year for any signs of decay, just like a car tire. Just because it isn't being used it will still decay.

Outer cover and how it is put together is the biggest issue., but not the only issue, the bladder must be strong also.

Here is a little example from which some of my advise was achieved.
Back in the days of Anglers Inn, My hubby and two brother in laws bought the Expedition 8' pontoon (all three are still in use). The forth brother in-law a little short for money, was offered a BASKET CASE deal on one. By that I mean the frame was the Expedition Steel frame, but one pontoon was Urethane and the other Vinyl. Same outer cover on both and same Halkey Roberts valves. He experienced the vinyl tube fluctuating in air much more and rode low on one side no matter what he did. Later it got pin hole leaks (from maybe dragging it in the water) but again only on the vinyl side.
Along with the fact we both had Vinyl tubes that ended up blowing with in a year.
The pontoon with the SIDE BY SIDE comparison added to my conclusions and my belief, but again I am no Scientist, engineer.
And I am still a you get what you pay for (with in reason) kind of person.
Just wanted to get this out in the open.
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your experiences are what make you what you are.. you draw from those and make the best decision you can for the next situation..

you present.. input.. give out.. how ever you want to say it.. a lot of great information and insight into fly fishing.. fly tying.. tubing.. tooning .. you are as passionate if not more than most in what you do.. and making sure to pass it all on so that others may benefit from it..

to me.. you have no need to apologize for your passion for fishing and tubing.. and your endless desire to pass on to anyone who will listen your experiences so that they will benefit from them and not make the same mistakes or have the same problems..

maybe that is why we all call you the Fly Goddess.. [Smile]

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Triple DITTO to what macfly55 said!!
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I also Ditto the previous responses. Isn't this what this type of forum is all about? I joined this forum in order to learn and grow my fishing skills from the advice and experiences of other, and maybe share some insight that I might have.

After all, the outdoors and the sport of fishing offers more to everyone than does some of the other things out there in the world today.

Keep up the good work and let us all benefit and grow from our association with one another.[Wink]
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I have to give you a big AMEN to that one.. and a big high five as well... [Smile]
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Thank you all for understanding and your support.
I still think there is more to it like maybe properties, but why are all the river rafts made out of Urethane or no bladder at all?

Just my mind constantly on the go.
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good point..

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You are awesome Flygoddess. I know I have learned a lot from you and have been able to share with you as well.

Keep up the good work. I hope to wet a line with you soon.

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[cool][#0000ff]No harm, no foul.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]As long as we can all discuss things freely and openly, without personal attacks, it is great. We probably get deeper into some of the more technical issues of tubing on this forum than most others, so it is likely that there will be differences and misunderstandings.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]It's all good.[/#0000ff]
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THIS HEAT DOESN'T HELP! ARGH!
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[cool][#0000ff]Sorry. My influence and connections don't go THAT FAR. Can't help ya there.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]But, if you can keep from jumping off your Nav II for 30 days, it will start getting MUCH BETTER.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]God give me patience...AND i WANT IT RIGHT NOW.[/#0000ff]
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Aw, Patience ain't all it's cracked up to be....got to get on the WILD SIDE once in awhile.
About the Navi, well could be right there. Been fishing the creeks every day and I must say...it is natures rum and coke for sure.[Wink]
By the way, Baxter limited out today...he is so happy, his tail hasn't stopped.

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Id say baxster is a good fishing buddy....

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[cool][#0000ff]I have heard that Baxter has a brother who is both a fisherman and a drummer. [/#0000ff]

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I so got to get him a fishing vest. He kept stealing my flies.
Drums, NO WAY too noisy, but he plays a mean Harmonica!
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now I can certainly see Baxster in a fly fishing vest.. I think he may have a problem holding the rod though.. :-)
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[cool][#0000ff]I doubt that "HOLDING" the rod would be much of a problem. He has a mouth with teeth. The problem would be in how the rod looked after he made a few casts with it. Not good for fine bamboo. Probably not good for glass or graphite either. And it would no doubt trash a fine cork grip.[/#0000ff]
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hmmm.. I see a modification of the vest on the horizon.. [Smile]

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