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This is the Bi-visible that worked so well in Washingtons Irrigation run-off streams.
You cast it upstream into the moving water and let it come down and sink with the current.
Right as it hits the still water, be ready! You only get that one look. If they dont take it then, just re-cast. It wont get anything if you stand there and wait.


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[font "Garamond"][#008000][size 4]Hi there Thudpucker - well here is a link to YouTube for tying a Brown Bi-Visable fly. [/size][/#008000][/font]
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[font "Garamond"][#008000][size 4]However, it doesn't appear to look like your illustrations for it looks more like a Renegade Fly.[/size][/#008000][/font]
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[center][url "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVGiqCR_TFc"]BiVisable_Fly[/url]
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I'm glad that fly was successful for you, Thudpucker. But it's not the original Bi-visible.

The Bi-visible is an all-hackle fly, first tied, IIRC, by Harry Darbee. It's a popular Catskill Mountains pattern.

In the original, brown hackle is tied over the rear 2/3 of the body, and white hackle covers the front 1/3. There is no other body material, other than the thread base. Traditionally, 2-3 brown hackles were used, to assure a high-floating fly. Hackle was reverse tied, so that the flybody tapered upwards. Tails were brown hackle in the original, but many tied it with pheasant tail.

Tying your version should be easy enough. Tie thread on at the eye and wrap backwards to make a thread base. Tie in some mylar at the bend, and wrap the tag. Tie in a brown hackle, and make 3-4 turns. Tie on some peacock herl. Move thread forward. Wrap herl. Tie on a white hackle. Make 3-4 turns. Tie off thread.

Here's a trick for making herl more durable. Instead of wrapping it directly on the hook, first wrap it around the tying thread, making close, tight turns. Essentially, you're creating a herl chennile. Then wrap that on the hook. What happens is that every turn of the herl is bound down by thread, minimizing any damage by fish teeth.

Hope this helps.

Brook
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I call this fly a renegade and it works great either dry or wet. Easy quick tie. Brown hackle, herl, white. Some even to a double renegate with a white hackle, hurl, brown hackle in the middle, then white in front. This really isn't a bivisible, look for renegade and you'll find lots of patterns and instructions.

katghoti.
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The Renegade can be tied as a wet fly by using hen dle hackle instead of cock dry fly dle hackle. The hen hackle being softer and webby will move more freely in the water.

But a the dry Renegade as shown can easily be fished as a wet by adding some weight and/or 'sink It"
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Maybe adding a tuft like a parachute of Chartreuse or flour red behind the white hackle...I have seen and sold them and they were called a Hi-Vis.

great go to fly, either way.
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I have done the same thing except the indicator tuff I put in the front of the Hackle.
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Ironically, when the Bi-Visible was originated, a #16 was considered to be a small fly. So no other indicator color was needed---the white stands proud and tall, even for my tired old eyes.

As we reduce the size of the fly, a little help from some red or chartreuse sure is a help.

Brook
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for low light conditions I find hot orange or pink are two colors that stand out.

I once was fishing an evening hatch and had a size 16 fly with a large green post on it so that I could see the size 24 parachute with the small hot orange post. I never could find the large fly but I imediately could spot the post of the size 24 fly in the dim evening light.
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I find BLACK posts the best on bright days. Always carry a sharpie with me.
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I love that history.
Years ago I had a book by Lee Wulff or about him and his favorite flies.
He must have been a patient man on the river, or his released fish have lectured generations of Rainbow since then, because a lot of his flies just didint work well up in the Pacific NW streams.
Stream fishing is one of the most enjoyable struggles I ever engaged in.
Round slippery rocks, water so shallow a Perile couldnt survive, yet there's a Rainbow behind ever rock.
Amazing.

I am a real newbie to this fly tying. I've only had this Vise and stuff from the Uncle for a month or two, and its been winter to boot. When the chill sets in I feel more like Hibernating than fly-tying .

I have plenty of Chicken Feathers to practice that Hackle thing with.

Nobody ever said whether the Renegade would work on Crappie....or did I miss it.
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crappie are not fussy. I would think it would work fairly well.
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It works on every other fish, why not on Bluegill.
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In my experience, crappie flies with white, yellow, or a combination of them work best.

Brook
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Don't forget CHARTREUSE! Funny thing is, I caught a BIG Bluegill on almost every cast with a BLACK Marabou Nymph with red dumbell eyes.
But Yellow, Chartreuse, and White where working okay.
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