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This is kinda late but, last Wed. I took this nice 4X4 at 1024 yards (lasered with my Swarovski rangefinder) with a single shot from my custom 7WSM (you can see my rifle in the second pic). Keep your negative comments about shooting that far to yourself because you have no idea what you're talking about.......

Anyway, it was on public land in Utah county in an area that gets hunted pretty hard but this and three other nice bucks hangout way up high in a very hard to reach spot. It took me and my buddy 5 hours to pack out this guy. Don't know if you can tell by the pic but he had a good sized body. My legs hurt for several days after. All said and done it was well worth it. My previous longest kill was a cow Elk at 730 yards.
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Thats a nice buck and a nice looking rifle. Can you tell me a little more about that rifle.

So I have to ask, You have told everyone that may question you taking a shot at that distance and mentioned that they do not know what they are talking about. so....are you a sniper or what makes you so qualified to tell everyone that they dont know what they are talking about.

I know many folks talk about taking and making shots like that. Share with us please.
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Nice shot and nice buck!!! I know how you feel about your legs hurting.

I cant believe you took that far of a shot. That is sooooo unethical....................HAHAHAHA just kidding.


I dont want you to think that I dont know what I am talkin about. But if I said that it was the best type of shot that you should have taken then I would know what I was talking about right. Well I would not say either of those comments and be serious but........I will say that I would not take that far of a shot myself for the obvious reason that I am not as confident on making a good shot at that distance. Too much room for error and I dont practice at that distance. If your a big coyote hunter your skills would treat you well this winter. That is what I would be trying to shoot at that distance. What are you going to do with the rack?
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Let me start off by saying, I know it sounded kind of harsh about telling everyone that they don't know anything. I just wanted to avoid this thread turning into an ethical shot or not type of thing. I know that other people know how to do this also. So don't take offense.

No, I am not a sniper. You don't have to be a "sniper" to shoot accurately at long ranges, you do have to practice though. Anyone can do it, it just takes certain tools, skill and know how. Practice practice practice.

Someone asked to tell more about my gun. I could fill page after page about my rifle and ballistics and such just cuz I like to talk about it, because it's cool!!

The gun is a custom rifle built by Kevin Rayhill at Stockade Guns. It has a Savage Precision Target Action a custom 28" Benchmark barrel with 1:9 twist so I can shoot heavy for caliber bullets and still stabilize them. The action has been bedded into a custom stock that has an adjustable cheek piece so I get good cheek weld and line of sight with the scope is the same every single time. The stock was also made my Stockade.There is also a Night Force Angle Degree Indicator mounted on the rail so I know exactly the angle my gun is pointing, up or down. It has a 20 MOA canted scope base (allows for more "up" clicks in my scope without bottoming it out) and six screw tactical rings that have been lapped by me. They hold down the Vortex Viper scope which is 6.5-20X50 with 30mm tube and 65 MOA of internal adjustment and target turrets. The trigger is set to exactly 16oz. Yes, that is very light but you can shoot much more accurate with a light trigger and it is my preference and my gun so I can set the trigger however I want [Wink]. It is a single shot and a shell never goes in until I am already lying behind the rifle.

This is already getting long!
Well I have been doing this longrange thing for a few years now and have practiced a lot at these distances and further (1370 yards longest shot on a gongs so far). My limit right now on live game would be about 1200 yards. 800 to 1000 yards I am as confident as I am at 200 yards. Just because I know that my rifle is accurate and REPEATABLE, that is the key. I have shot at a 8" white rock on a hill side 874 yards away while elk hunting over an over with the same point of impact every single time. Even different days and different winds, it's all science and you can't argue science. The ballistics are proven and so are the ballistic programs that you input the relative data into.
About the shot and what makes it possible:

I carry a very expensive and accurate Swarovski rangefinder that will range well past a mile.

I also carry a hand held weather station that gives me the data I need like, humidity, wind speed, barometric pressure and temperature.

I also carry a PDA with me that has Exbal loaded on to it. (a ballistics program from Night Force) this is not necessary but is very handy. Other wise I would have to carry printed out drop charts on paper and only have general info to input instead of the real world conditions.

The muzzle brake on the rifle allows me to spot my own shots since the gun moves very little once fired. I usually have a spotter with me anyway and it is his job to watch through the spotting scope and call out any correction that may be need after the shot.

I reload all my own shells and put a ton of time into brass prep like deburring the flash holes, neck turning, gaging the neck wall thickness and so on and so on. Good components make good finished cartridges so I only use Federal Match grade primers. The bullets I use are made one at a time by a guy in California and have a very high B.C. value .750 This lets them retain there speed longer than a lower B.C. bullet would and the wind affects them much less. They are 189 grains and yes that is pretty heavy for a 7mm cartridge but man they are accurate and great for longrange hunting. All my powder charges are measured to 1/10 of a grain so they are all exactly the same.
I use a chronograph to get my starting point with my ballistics program then tweak it from there with validation in the field at the same distances. One reason the gun is so repeatable is the feet per second only vary in the single digits from one shot to the next.

There is no "hold over" when I shoot. I "dial" my scope up to the predetermined MOA and hold dead on in the crosshairs. Same with the wind, dial and hold dead on.

Ok, almost done. Not really but this is really long.

I will tell you the scenario of my shot then let my fingers rest [Smile]

I had watched the deer bed down in a group of trees and just waited for him to stand up and stretch or feed. Eventually he did. He fed broadside across a clearing that we thought he would. We had already ranged that spot and it was 1024 yards over and over. Checked again just to make sure. The rifle was angled down 7 degrees. My PDA told me 23.25 MOA up and 1.75 MOA left to make up for the 9 mph half value wind blowing to the right. I shot from the prone position from my bipod with a poly bead filled rear bag(doesn't weigh a thing and can be very handy) just like shooting from the bench. Dialed the scope, held dead on, took a few breaths and slowly squeezed the trigger. It took 1.3112 seconds to get to the deers chest, so I had plenty of time to get back on target before the hit. My spotter called the shot right behind the shoulder. He ran down hill about 50 yards and piled up where you see him in the pics. It was really quite awesome. There was no guessing involved in that shot at all. It is all about precise shooting. When I pulled that trigger I knew exactly where that bullet was going to end up. If you are surprised when your bullet hits where you wanted it to, that isn't exactly confident or precise.....
I can go on for hours but I'll post this and write more if someone wants to ask a question.

As far as the antlers go, they will go on a plaque because we didn't pack out the whole head, just the skull cap and antlers.

Thanks for letting me ramble for so long, this has got to be a record for longest reply.
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Very cool and congratts !! I have a couple friends that are into the long range shooting and it sounds like a blast! You explained it very well on how all of it works! Awesome buck and story!![Smile]
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Nice buck. If you were worried about folks hammering on ya for taking a long shot then why not just leave it out of the post all together? In my opinion shot distance doesnt add to or take from the buck. Now packing it out till your legs hurt only makes the meat taste that much better[Wink]. Congrats on a nice buck..
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Long range shooting at targets is very addicting. If anyone is going to shoot at an animal at these kinds of distances I'd hope they are taking Brainamus's lead and are practicing as he has. I had a neighbor tell me how one of the guys in his hunting party got a couple cracks off at a buck at over 800 yds this year. That drives me nuts when idiots who have no chance of hitting something at that distance shoot at animals at that distance. Brainamus you're probably one of very few people on here who know what my screen name actually means.
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That is absolutely amazing. Congratulations on a great buck and a great shot. It's probably a good thing you explained it all out and covered all your bases, cuz as I started out reading this thread I knew your first disclaimer wasn't going to be good enough for some people.

I can't imagine the level of satisfaction from putting the research, time, work, and practice into it, and having it all pay off. Heck, it still amazes me to be able to overlap 2-3 bullet holes in a 2" bullseye @ 100 yards sighting in/practicing each year! I haven't had a rifle tag for a few years (been doing the muzzy to beat the crowd), and have definately missed hunting with those amazing tools of death.

It was neat to hear that a shot like that is possible and what it takes to pull it off.
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Nice explaination and it seems you know what is going on. The question I have is were you trying to go for a record of distance or could you have gotten closer just to make the shot easier. Like when he bedded down in the trees did you think of moving in a little closer or did you not want to risk scaring him? This is not critisizing I'm just curious if that crossed your mind or if you felt where you were at would get you the best shot.


How much does a custom gun like that cost? Just curious - you don't have to say if you are not comfortable. I know that Swarski (Spelling) stuff is expensive. I'd say you are using the best hunting tools to get what you need.

Thanks for sharing
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Once again, very nice buck, and yes, you have done your home work and yes, I know a little about that because of my law enforcement experience with snipers.

Thanks for the explanation and clearing things up
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I added a better pic of the rifle and my 2 yr old who is fittingly named Gunner.

Thanks for the kind words fellers.

Amen to what submoa said about his username.

As far as getting closer goes. I did actually get closer, the first spot I ranged from the deer were at 1269 yards. There was not much cover on the hillside where the deer were and yes I wouldn't have chanced spooking them when I knew I could shoot from the position I was at. I did want to shoot from a long distance that is why I was set up in that particular spot. I had put a lot of time and effort into shooting at those distances so it was nice when it paid off with a nice buck to boot.

As far as cost goes, with a custom rifle the sky is the limit. You can get a nice rig starting in the $2,500 range on up to $5,000+ easily.

Don't make the mistake of thinking you can "buy" marksmanship with your wallet though, that is just work plain and simple.

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Thank you for this post . It is one of the best I have ever read . On the outdoor channel there is a show about long range shooting and I love it . They are using Burris scopes with a ranger finders built into them and BDC also , so you hold dead on . Great Post . Thanks Curt
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Cool story thanks for sharing. I have always wondered how people claimed accuracy from that far away. I am an archery hunter so have no real experience with rifles. I am very impressed by how technical it all is. I watched my dad knock down a nice 4x4 that was at least a thousand yards away with a weatherby 30-06 and leapold 3x9. We were glassing it when all of the sudden the rifle goes off. Me and my brother were like "Dad, what in the hell are you doing?" Then he calmly said,"It's down." He later told me how sorry he felt for taking the unethical shot(he really is the most ethical hunter I know) and hoped me and my brother wouldn't follow his bad example. This happened years and years ago.
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This was a great post. What he is talking about sounds a lot easier then it is. Understand if you are shooting a 1/2 MOA gun, the best you're GUN (Not you behind the gun just the gun) will shoot in a perfect world at a thousand yards is 5" groups (If you can do that you could win bench rest competitions). Then add in you're not hunting with target ammo so to get a gun that shoots 1/2 MOA with a good hunting round that will kill ethically at that distance is very very difficult and takes the hand loading perfection mentioned above. Change that to 1 MOA shooting gun and your gun now in a perfect world is going to shoot 10" groups at 1000 yds and that is with no human element to screw it up. Add ANY wind, temp change, barometric pressure, altitude and the angle you're shooting and anyone with a brain will not take any shot even remotely near this distance unless you've put in the trigger time at that distance. If you're not practicing and doing pretty much exactly what Brainamus has stated above and are taking long distance shots like this then you are an unethical tird who shouldn't be hunting.

When I saw the title of this post I rolled my eyes as I hear so many BS stories about killing animals at distance. 99% of these kinds of posts are total BS. This post is the 1%. Thanks for posting it, hopefully nobody tries to duplicate it without putting in the practice and devotion it takes to make these kinds of shots. If you want to get into long range shooting its like crack, very addictive and will cost you a lot of money.
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Well Said!
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Congrats on a great buck. If you enjoy taking long shots and you know that you can make them, more power to you.
It all comes down to what you consider "Fair Chase". If a deer has no chance whatsoever to Smell, Hear, or See you, is it still considered "Fair Chase hunting". Just curious. Doesn't seem like much of a hunt when a deer has no advantage at all. Kinda like boxing a man with no arms [cool].
Just my opinion.
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just wanted to say great post, great story it seems you have the envy of many....a least thats how i see the speculative replies.....ive been shooting for several yrs and being active military its never an easy thing to pull off shots like that, you probably have more time behind the trigger than most spend pre season scouting...bad ass rifle too....
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you might wanna click on [url "../../../cgi-bin/community/community.cgi?do=user_page;pg=user_profile_view.html;username=Brainamus"]Brainamus[/url] name and send this to him not me lol..... Thanks..
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Don't knock it 'till ya try it. It is a blast hitting rocks at 1000 yards not to mention a big game animal. I can understand someone asking the question. Is that even "hunting"?Well, the way I see it, yes. I still have to hike my guts out to get to a spot where some decent deer hang out and not every Tom and Dick and Harry are walking through your setup. I don't know, the outcome is the same either way; 200 yards, you spot a deer, you shoot it. 1000 yards, you spot a deer, you shoot it.

To each his own I guess. One guy might get a thrill by sneaking in close and taking a shot and another guy(me) might get a thrill by making an extremely long shot.

One also might put more of the "trophy" in the shot than the animal........ Like this year I went Spike Elk hunting. To me, no trophy in a spike Elk, so how do I make it more interesting? Shoot a spike from 800+ yards, then the trophy(to me) is now in the shot, not the animals rack. I passed on a spike at 420 yards with all the time in the world to shoot but I would have gotten zero satisfaction if I would have taken the shot and downed it. Easy shot, not a trophy rack, eh....... Just left with a bunch of work.

But this is why America is so great, we each get to choose for ourselves how or what we want to hunt and don't have to worry about pleasing everyone else in the process.
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