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[font "Comic Sans MS"][#800000][size 4]I had an interesting phone call from an individual at the SLC office of the Bureau of Reclamation (BOR) concerning the buoy line at Pineview Reservoir. We talked for about 20 minutes about the line and how it came to be moved. I will not divulge any names at this time because I didn’t ask for permission to do so. Here is what I know about the situation at this point in time.[/size][/#800000][/font]
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[font "Comic Sans MS"][#800000][size 4]The BoR was not aware of, or have knowledge of, the fishing attributes of the area that is now behind the buoy line. The decision to move the line was made based on security and maintenance concerns and has been in the making for several years. The buoy line applies equally to boaters and ice fishermen. The BoR has scheduled a meeting with the Utah DWR sometime this week to discuss the issues.[/size][/#800000][/font]
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[font "Comic Sans MS"][#800000][size 4]I have a direct number and email address for the person I talked to and I hope an open, friendly line of communication to gather honest, truthful information about the situation at Pineview. I will certainly pass on any information that I receive regarding the new location of the buoy line. But it is my gut feeling at the present time that citations for trespass will be a reality in the very near future for anybody caught fishing west of the buoy line.[/size][/#800000][/font]
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[font "Comic Sans MS"][#800000][size 4]I will be reporting back here with any new information as I receive it. Stay tuned. And please, DO NOT SHOOT THE MESSANGER. [cool][/size][/#800000][/font]
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Well done.
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[font "Comic Sans MS"][#800000][size 4]I know it’s been awhile since I last reported anything on this issue, but here is the latest information on the subject from an official source – Mr. Ed Vidmar from the US Bureau of Reclamation (UDBR) in Salt Lake City.[/size][/#800000][/font]
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[font "Comic Sans MS"][#800000][size 4]The USBR had a meeting in January with the Utah Division of Wildlife Resources (UDWR) about the placement and enforcement of the buoy line installed in the ‘Narrows’ area of Pineview Reservoir. The buoy line was moved from the old position of about 400 feet east of the dam to its current position of about 1700 feet east of the dam sometime in 2009. The new position put the best perch and crappie ice fishing in the ‘Narrows’ area into the ‘No Trespassing’ area between the buoy line and the dam. At the time the decision was made, the USBR did not have any idea that this was a prime area ice fishing location for perch and crappie. After a phone conversation with the USBR office chief in SLC, I believe it was an honest oversight by the USBR and not something they did on purpose. Regardless, it did place some fishermen in a situation of disregarding the law and fishing there anyway.[/size][/#800000][/font]
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[font "Comic Sans MS"][#800000][size 4]According to Mr. Vidmar, both the USFS Ranger in-residence at Pineview and the local UDWR CO for that area did ask fishermen to move from the area behind (west of) the buoy line and in some cases issued citations. The USFS issued at least a dozen; I don’t know how many were issued by the CO.[/size][/#800000][/font]
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[font "Comic Sans MS"][#800000][size 4]The USBR and the UDWR came to an agreement at their meeting in January that the buoy line can, and will, be moved again this spring to better accommodate fishing and security. The buoy line will be moved approximately 300 feet west (towards the dam) of its current location of 1700 feet east of the dam. The actual distance will be determined by the location of suitable anchor points on the north and south banks of the ‘Narrows.’ After the buoy line is moved, some new signs will be attached to the line that will extend above the buoys such that they will be visible during the winter months to warn fishermen to not travel west of the signs. Appropriate signs will also be placed at the top of each bank directly above the buoy line anchors. Citations will be issued to those caught west of the buoy line by both the USFS and the UDWR next year.[/size][/#800000][/font]
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[font "Comic Sans MS"][#800000][size 4]The good news from all of this is the fact the prime perch and crappie area will once again be fishable legally next year. Thanks for listening, and please - don't shoot the messenger.[/size][/#800000][/font]
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awesome! thanks for the update!
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[cool][#0000ff]Good news indeed. Thanks for getting the ball rolling and for the follow up. You do fine work.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]How is the shoulder coming along?[/#0000ff]
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This is good news. Glad to hear that the Feds are at lleast willing to listen to the public and then take action to help remedy the problem.[cool]
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The interesting part of ANY of the "no trespass" areas (DC, PV, Yuba,etc) is that a terrorist or someone that is going to do harm to that dam, will NOT be stopped by a bouy! The ONLY way to stop that would be to have someone camp out there (their ONLY job) and have underwater cameras, underwater sound detection, chemical detection, etc. That seems to be a little OVERKILL. Just placing a bouy is not STOPPING anything. Just like a padlock...they are only as good as the cheapest bolt cutter. I DUNNO....
Some of the best wally fishing at Yuba yrs ago used to be right next to (and inside of...oops) the bouys there. I know I will get BASHED for this opinion, but that's ALL it is...an opinion!
I just don't quite get the Homeland Security thing I guess. I understand the airports need for security, but at the LAKE?! I KNOW that someone can taint the water supply, but they don't need to do it at the dam. It could happen WAY UPLAKE. I know it's also to keep someone from BLOWING UP the dam... but SCUBA gear could render the BOUYS useless. What happened to TRUST??
WOW...I don't even CARE to fish next to, in front of, or behind the bouy lines at ANY lake. There are plenty of fish elsewhere in any given lake, that it's not even a factor. IT'S JUST THAT IT SUCKS TO BE REGULATED BY "BIG BROTHER" AGAIN!! What next? They get to tell us Power Bait can be used to form a new kind of C4? Not near the Power, but close to the same "BANG FOR YOUR BUCK"?

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WADDAJOKEITALLIS!!!
There.....have at me now!!
C'mon....BRING IT ON!
I AIN'T SCEER'D!!
And NO....I'M NOT A TERRORIST!! (not even close) lol
Just a non-conformist (I'm NOT a sheep)!!
I BLINDLY follow the rules, JUST LIKE YOU! But if the rule is WRONG, fix it, don't BREAK IT!!
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[angelic][angelic] good work.....
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