I am curious what you guys think about line what kind you use and why you use it that way?
My mono is always twisting. Would braid be better for trolling? Thanks Ron
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PVC coated and Fluorocarbon....LOL sorry I couldn't resist.[sly]
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I do a lot of river fishing and I am forever changing my line out. The river is rough on the line...I've used the FireLine before...a little noisy when reeling and likes to freeze up in the cold...I'm still searching for the perfect line...I also would like to hear what some of the other board members are using.
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I use Spyder Wire braid for most things. It has a very small diameter for its strength. There is no stretch in it period. You really have to be careful on setting a hook or you will really "rip some lips". Twisting has never been a problem with it. The down side I have seen is if you tangle it, you are *********. It does not work well below freezing either as it seems to bring a little more water to the reel with it and it freezes quite fast. I do use it on one of my ice fishing rods that I use for perch since I can set the hook so easy with it and I also keep it inside the pop-up where it is a little warmer. If you use it where there are sharp rocks, it will wear like any other line, just a little harder to see the wear. I like it a lot for salmon fishing. It casts effortlessly. You can feel the smallest bite since it does not stretch. If you get a little carried away on the cast, you may end up with the tangled mess.
For regular line I prefer Maxima. I have used many other kinds and always seem to go back to using Maxima. The strength and wear characteristics are excellent. It seems to be the toughest and most dependable line I have used. I only change line once a year unless I have been doing a lot of fishing.
As far as trolling, braid would be great. Just make sure you are using a swivel some where or everything and anything you use will twist.
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I personally hate the Fluorocarbon. I was using P line salmon fishing a few years ago in California and it was the worst line I ever had. It frayed bad and when it broke it poped like a rifle going off. I set down after a few hours and changed it right on the bank with some Stren I had in the box. Enjoyed the rest of the trip.
I am using the Cajun Red at this time and I am really liking it and I think it is tougher than any mono I have used in the past. Was a little weary of the Red color but it doesn't seem to matter to the fish.
Like the braided to jig with in the summer but it ices up to bad in the winter.
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Just to be sure as to not give it a bad rap, are you sure it was P-Line Fluorocarbon as they make several different lines. I have been using The P Fluoro since 1985 and have never experienced what you said. Vantage yes.
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The P-Line has been wonderful for me. I use the flurocarbon and the superlines. I have never used it for really big fish, but for bass fishing jigs it has been excellent. From what I have seen the strength to diameter ratio is unbelievable.
It is strange how everyone has different experience and preferences. I guess that is why there are so many different lines.
P.S. My P-lines are working awesome for ice fishing as well.
Windriver
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It was P line Flouro. I had heard a lot of great things about it so I spent the extra money and bought it to try, and who knows, at that price it could have been on the shelf for a long time. I was using it in some pretty extreme circumstances, 100 plus degrees and a lot of abrasive rocks. Just my take on it, but there is sure a lot of flouro on the market right now so a lot of people must like it.
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Heay, if it was perfect, there would be no need for any other [laugh]
But shelf life should effect fluoro. That is the only down side to it, it doesn't. disintegrate.
Rocks and sharp edges could do it for sure. But was the Stren braided or of equal weight?
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I've used yozuri quite a bit and like it except I can't visualize it since I've only found it in clear. Maxima I like other than it's a little stiff. It's definitely tough as nails though and I'm using it more and more, just going one test lighter than normal. Wish it came in high vis though. For bass I'm pretty sold on the cabelas brand in high vis green. I can see it when jigging on bottom and it's not too stiff. I does twist some, but I have yet to find a line that doesn't after a while bass fishing. Finally I was usuing Magnathin for quite a while. It's limp. Had minimal memory. Worked really well for ice fishing and casted a mile when I needed it to. Unfortunately it doesn't have the abrasion resistance I want and it seemed more prone to weakening d/t time and the elements than other lines I've used. In the end my ice lines are mostly yozuri (haven't bothered to change the line out yet) and my others are either the cabelas or the Maxima ultragreen.
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I use mono for almost everything except sturgeon fishing then i use gorilla braid. never did care for the spider wire type lines. for trolling and casting general purpose its hard to find a line better then Ande. for my fly fishing leader I love the Berkly vanish fluorocarbon
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You mentioned trolling so I'll assume that is the answer you are looking for. Most guys that troll extensively use braid in 30 to 40 lb. test. On the braid is a 100' top shot of mono, generally Maxima Ultragreen. This is a standard set up whether you fish the ocean or lakes and is used for toplining or on the wire (with down riggers). Attached to your top shot is a bead chain swivel. This type of swivel will keep any line from twisting. They are expensive but worth it. Now comes your leader. Generally we use a Spro Ball Bearing Snap Swivel on one end of your leader which will snap to the bead chain swivel on the top shot. Most guys will run 5' of leader, fluoro is the preffered leader unless you are fishing for fish that are going to give a treble straigtening shot on your lure, with a Duolock clip on the end that hooks to your plug, flasher or dodger. Line twist will never be a problem again. Should you want to straighten a twisted line, simply let out, 100' of line behind the boat at trolling speed with just the swivel attached and slowly reel it back in. The twists will be gone.
Note: Bail style reels were not designed for trolling and you will never totally stop line twist if you choose to troll with them.
Good Hunting,
Don
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I don't know if its the same for everyone but to me it seems as though the fluorocarbon lines don't throw as smoothly as the mono lines. I use 10lbs fluorocarbon.
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I use Stren 10lb mono for most of my reels. When I was in alaska fishing for salmon most of the time I used 45 pound SpiderWire. I liked it for salmon. I didn't have to think about line breaking on a big one. It was a pain when tangled with mono lines. The combat fishing was bad in some areas. In that case I used 25lb mono with a leader.
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I have had excellent luck with 10lb. Maxima fo trolling and Yozui smoke color for pitching tubes and lures.
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I'm rather fond of Yo-Zuri Hybrid. It kind of has the best of both worlds. It's fluorocarbon coated mono. I'm really liking the extra sensitivity with drop shotting and fishing shakey heads. I just got some of the new Yo-Zuri Hybrid Ultrasoft that I'm looking forward to trying out. It's supposed to cast even better off of spinning reels than the original. I also picked up some Power Pro braid in the red color that I'm going to give a try this season as well.
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P-line has the same hybrid type line between fluro and mono. I really love it. It is abrasion resistent. Visible above water for detecting light strikes and has virtually no memory.
Windriver
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looks like i will have to pick up a spool of the hybrid line.
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The nice thing about Yo-Zuri is that you can sometimes find really good deals on it. I just got two 725 yard spools of 10lb, and 2 850 yard spools of 8lb for $25 off of ebay. That's going to last me a couple of years I bet.
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