I was watching a show called "Monster Fish of America" and it was an Carp. I saw that in the Mississippi River the Silver and Big Head Carp are killing off all of the native fish in the river. I was wondering if the Carp in the lakes of UT were planted Legaly or Not Legaly?? (By the way i thing carp are fun to catch and all, it just bug's me how there are taking over alot of lakes)
DEVIN
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It was in the late 1800's because the settlers had basically taken all of the trout etc out of Utah Lake. Carp were put back in as a food base. Not sure when the F&G dept came about but I would think you wouldn't classify it as illegal or bucket biology.
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I'd like to know who's the dummy who planted Carp in Bear Lake. Anyone know how long they've been in that natural lake? I couldn't believe it a couple years ago when I saw them all over the Marina.
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Earliest records of fish and game in Utah were 1894. A couple of years before we actually became a state. Carp were introduced throughout north america to supply food after the early settlers had destroyed most of the big game populations on the continent. Apparently we don't think they taste as good as the european settlers that introduced them. It was a terrible mistake that can never be fixed. gshorthair
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here is my take on the carp in Utah! the Utah DWR has allowed the carp in Utah to live unopposed for far to long. and I think it's criminal that they can neglect they're job and responsibility to protect Utah's waters by not even putting forth a effort to try and eliminate the carp from all Utah waters.. even the nasty grass carp they put in Salem pond..
yet to date in less it was a popular trout fishing lake they well not put any effort into eliminating the carp in any waters in the state.. in less the Federal government makes them in the case of Utah lake..
yet they have spent millions of dollars trying to kill the native chub in all most any lake they find them in..
carp are the most invasive and destructive spices to have ever hit Utah's waters far worse to the systems then the Mussels could ever be.. as far as fishing go's the water user's will have a different point of view on that one,,
yet to date they the DWR the guy's who's job it is to protect our waters from spices like this have done nothing for years to stop the spared or even try and eliminate this the most invasive spices in the USA today..
if you do not believe me try asking any DWR official some time what if anything they got planed or are going to do about the problem with carp.. they will stop talking to you and treat you like the criminal for even asking such a question,, try it some time and see what happens.. I have many of times and have never got any answer what so ever from them..
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You are right on there...
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There killing the Lake Steurgon and Paddlefish in the middle of the country! we dont want them to kill the fishing here! Some times i want to go put a hook in a piece of bread, catch em and throw em in the shrubs for the Cyotes to eat!! They are taking over one of my favorite place's to fish!!!!! KILL THE CARP!
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did you know all carp can be traced back to a single county in eastern Pennsylvania and all brown trout to a single retention pond in eastern Penn.?
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I really wonder how different the water would be in cutler/bear river if it weren't for all the carp wallowing and churning up the mud.
I had a Koy (carp) in a fishtank with some Silver Barbs, and it was a pain to keep clean. I was amazed when the Koy was removed how much the rest of the debris in the tank settled. MUCH cleaner!
So my son hooked up a big carp off the dock in the S.Marina at Willard. It was all he could do to hold it, then it broke off. Dropped a piece of bread right in front of it's nose - slurp. So NOW he really wants to catch a carp.
As I've pointed out to him - they might look slow and meandering, but when they want to - can BOOK, and are very strong (and big).
So we went out to Benson about 4pm and headed north. We spotted up a number of carp in the shallows on the east side. Then went across north-west. There were hoards of them waving fins and humpy backs out some 20-30 ft from shore. Must have been a frenzy of Carp Lambada action - they seemed mostly paired and circling around.
We tried tossing our home-made carp-dough under a bobber, or off the bottom. Also tried to pitch some bread, but the boy kept tossing it right off the hook - hard to cast. Worms too, along with some smelly cat-jelly (blood).
Basically - they seemed quite disinterested - it was quite a sight though - almost like whale watching, on a small scale. And set against a KILLER sunset (yah, left the camera home....)
SO - what does it take to catch a carp?
Maybe their not interested in eating while they're busy with the love-making!
I want some kitty bait! The boy wants a fight! I'm thinking if we can make the bait float on the surface - when they're sucking scum they just pull it right it. Marshmallows? Add yeast to the dough so it makes bubbles inside?
We started getting nibbles as the sun went down - switched to targetting kitties with worms, and the kid got happy again when he pulled in a mud-belly. At least we caught something!! I had a couple hard-hits but missed the hookup.
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cheap fishing bow is a good tool for carp catching[:p]. they dont fight much with the arrow stuck through there guts though lol.
ALL CARP MUST DIE!!
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[quote lavaman]I'd like to know who's the dummy who planted Carp in Bear Lake. Anyone know how long they've been in that natural lake? I couldn't believe it a couple years ago when I saw them all over the Marina.[/quote]
I would bet nobody did.
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Yes there are a lot in bear lake. Not sure how they got there but when my dad was little he lived there and he and my uncles would fill up their row boat with them and kill them. They had a small stream next to their house that they would go up and spawn in the spring.
When I was little we would go to this stream as well in the spring and there would be fish stacked up like crazy in there. Both carp and suckers. I could not believe how many were in there. Mostly suckers I guess; the carp would just roam the shore line.
One time we found that the carp would get caught in between the lake and the sandbars. We'd walk and catch them and throw them onto the shore. Walking back they were still breathing. We threw them back in the water and they swam off. I couldn't believe it. I think there are so many because they are hearty fish and don't die easily. Anyone else have experience with their hardiness?
Anyway we hated those fish too. If you are there in the summer sometimes driving your boat out deep you will see "boils" of carp. We've seen this quite a bit.
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I know a guy that caught a carp from UL. he kept it for bait and went home, and when he got there, the carp was still alive.
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