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Lately I am getting allot of request for flies. But not just from fly fishers, but from spinners.

Is there a difference in flies for the fly fishers and the spinners using a bubble or maybe some split shot to help get them out there.

On the other forums I see some flies tied by spin fishermen and while I am sure they catch fish, they are not what you would see if a fly fishers box.

So, lets hear from you all. I wanna make sure I am making the flies right for the spinners.
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i have Fishin_gal chorinimid fish with spin gea, but they arent anything special just the same flys i use
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Thanks, she told me that. I set my sister in law up with the slip dicator and Chrionomids as well.

Also, haresears, PT, Prince with a bubble. Dry flies are out though.
Woolly Buggers, Bunny Leeches, Double Bunnys? I guess they all work right?

It's just a lure, right?
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I would think that most nymph and streamer patterns would fish the same on still waters. I bet a Circus Peanut or other articulator would swim nicely using a bait chucker.
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Just looked at you avatar and a light went on...duh....how you doin'[laugh]

Got a point there.

Okay, how small can you go with a spinning outfit?
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That was awesome...but I meant FLY!!!!
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Off subject but that reminds me I ran into 2 guys fly fishing on the Provo up in the forest about a month ago. One had a ice fishing rod with him that he'd switch over and use as a spinning rod at times. He said he'd caught some trout with it including one nice one he was keeping. Not sure how fair he could cast but there are plenty of fish to be caught just a few feet in front of you on small streams with just a bit of stealth.
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I use an ice fishing rod for Crappie on Pineview during the spawn. You can't cast too far, but they are more sensitive then other bait casting rods, maybe that is why he used it? Anyway it helps me get Crappie because they are typically a light taker.
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When I use a spin cast in the uintas with a fly I just use my same stuff as for a fly rod. So I am guessing there is no difference. I bet the stuff you have seen in a baitfisher's tackle box look "different" just because either they don't know how to tie a good fly pattern, or because they bought the cheapest things they could just to have them along.

That probably explains the requests for your "good" patterns.
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Thanks Pookie. Actually the one from this forum that I am putting a collection together just had a run of bad luck and is trying to get back in the dle.
But other forums, they are those that want to make the switch but are more comfortable with their gear. Nothing wrong with that at all, I am just looking for the ULTIMATE fly for a spinning outfit...LOL No batteries or bubbles needed...LOL
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Do you ever tie body weighted flies?

You can get lead wire from just about any hardware store. You start the fly the same as usual, thread on the shank, then tie on a nutural colored yarn and let it hang. Wrap the shank of the hook with the lead wire to the desired weight. Once the wire is in place wrap your thread up to the eye of the hook over the wire, wrap the yarn over the wire to fill in any gaps and roughness in the wire, then secure it with you thread.


Then you simply tie the same fly you would usually tie over top of the yarn and everything. Works great, I have made flies weigh up to 1/2 oz and they sink like a rock!! (streamers obviously) But then you don't have to split shot or anything, just cast the fly. Should work for the spin casters in your life.
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I have Lead Substitute Wire. Haven't used lead for a long time, but that is just my choice is all.

I can see the heavier the fly the better with a spinning outfit.

I might even have some old Lead Dumbbell eyes somewhere.

Most helpful stuff here, keep it coming.
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I tie some patterns for some friends that use them with their spinning rods.
I tie the flies on a small jig hook, like a size 8 with a 1/32oz. head.
Something like woolly bugger, leach or a damsel nymph work great.
For my grandson, age 5, I set up a fly and water bubble
combo using small leaches and pistol pete flies.
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I just remembered, a friend from the past used the Jigs with chenille and Marabou...did quite well.
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Where do you get your Lead Substitute Wire from?

Thanks

When I fish in the Uintas, I set m kids up with a fly and a bubble. It works great. The fly is basically a wolly bugger.
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Orvis...I stocked up while here, but most my purchases now come from J. Stockard:

http://www.jsflyfishing.com/cgi-bin/category/62000

Fish Tech and Western Rivers should have it. Not sure about Sportsmans as they seem to be straying from Fly Fishing...Cabela's?
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Thanks!![]
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[cool][#0000ff]I will pop in here. I have tied flies for years and fish them both with standard flyrods and with spinning rods...many different ways. A fly is a fly is a fly...but the way you present it can make more difference than the rod you use to fish it.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]When living in California I usually packed both flyrods and spinning gear back into the Sierras...pretty much the same thing as the Uintas. I used the flyrod wherever there was room for backcasting and the fish were within reach. But, whenever standard casting was a problem...or the fish were rising way beyond fly casting range, out came the bubble and fly. I used the same patterns. These ranged from small nymphs to ants to hoppers to streamers...depending upon the water, the species and time of year. [/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]Over the years I have experimented with fishing flies many different ways on a spinning rod. One of the most effective...for fishing deep in stillwater...is to combine a jig and fly. I either rig a small jig on the bottom...with a dropper a couple of feet above...or put the jig on the dropper and let the fly trail behind two or three feet behind the jig. I tie a lot of marabou jigs that work well by themselves or with the jig-fly combo.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]I fish flies both in flowing and still water with a double dropshot rig...weight on the bottom and two flies on droppers above the weight. Helps find and hold the bottom in deep flows and drag the bottom behind my tube in deeper lakes. I catch a lot of fish that way.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]I also rig flies with lures...either as a dropper above a spinner, spoon or hardbait...or sometimes as a trailer from 6" to 3' behind the lure. The use of swivels in the right places are helpful to avoid line twist both above the lure and on the fly/leader.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]You may have been referring to some of the flies I have posted as being "non-traditional". I do use flies...especially in the fall...that are more "lures" than standard fly patterns. They incorporate flashy holographic chenilles, bright hot colors and synthetic materials for wings and tails. They may offend the senses of purist fly flingers but they work.[/#0000ff]
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Thanks for popping in here.

As I said, allot of the flies spin fisherman use, you will not see in a fly fisherman's box....although they may work.

Not the convention fly hook, and material or colors that a fly fisher will use.
Again, although they work...I just saw these more as lures than flies, but I get it now.

Anyone can fish a fly, but not everyone can fly fish and that is the beauty of it, and it boils down to it doesn't really matter.
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