I was just checking out Utahfishfinder.com and my scofield info was on there................
"Another party of two caught 37 fish. One used a 1/32-ounce pumpkin-pepper gold jig tipped with a night crawler. The other used silver Kastmasters with a chunk of minnow meat."
Then there was this...............................
"They reported seeing a 30.5-inch tiger being taken through the ice."
Are they so desperate that they scavange reports from BFT? Or did someone on here copy and paste my report to them? Either way I don't mind too much but I would prefer my username being attached to the info. You know giving credit where credit is due and all.
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Interesting. I know folks cross-post reports between user forums (even if we can't mention that other site - it's like Voldemort). But I wasn't aware others might snaggle the info for their own site. I'd always wondered where those reports come from, or where you'd submit one.
Does the forum have a policy about that?
i wonder if that site (UTfishwhatever) is owned by firstlight.net. because if it is i bet it is a feed from here to that web site. if not what can ya do?
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That website used to have an extremely active forum that many of us old timers frequented long before BFT. It was loosely moderated by Rich and imploded. When that happened, many of us migrated over to BFT. Rich gets fishing reports from wherever he can get them.
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Does anyone know how to contact that website? 1st of all I knew of that site before BFT and a few other fishing forums that I belong to in utah.
I didn't join it (report to it) because I felt it was too public for how detailed my reports are and there are no pics. I think of my reports as an asset or product to whatever sites I chose to be apart of.
I understand its the internet and once you post up it is for the world not yourself, but if I left BFT and saw that my reports on other forums were copy pasted onto BFT I would be ticked off.
There is a chance now that when I go to places I will reconsider how much info I divulge on BFT thanks to Utahfishfinder blasting my reports on their site.
To just rip off my info and give absolutely no credit to my twin and I seems ethically wrong and rubs me way wrong. Extremely poor form indeed!
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Sounds to me that your in it for the credit and nothing more. If you were not, then really, what does it matter?
Like you said, it's the Internet and you shared it and it can go anywhere then. If you don't want it to be out there, don't say anything!
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Bet you money there a clause in the fine print when you signed up with BFT that's it says something like once you have agreed to sign up for BFT the posts are longer yours there the property of BFT and lighthouse.net.
I've moderated many a BBS and there always a clause in the fine print in these boards
that's says something along these lines. That being said its the freaking Internet if you dont want it out there dont put it out on public for display. Thousands of Girls Gone Wild had to learn this the hard way [cool][cool][cool][cool]
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And there you have it.
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Any idea what "when set in user preferences" means?
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Does anyone know how to contact that website?
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[url "mailto:rich@utahfishfinder.com"]rich@utahfishfinder.com[/url]
Send Rich an email if you feel so strongly about it. Tell him that Kent says hi.
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[quote RILEYFISH]Sounds to me that your in it for the credit and nothing more. If you were not, then really, what does it matter?
Like you said, it's the Internet and you shared it and it can go anywhere then. If you don't want it to be out there, don't say anything![/quote]
Is it bad to want credit? You make it sound like a crime or something. My username was attached to the report copied so why post my info and not my name?
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[quote kentofnsl][quote TyeDyeTwins]
Does anyone know how to contact that website?
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[url "mailto:rich@utahfishfinder.com"]rich@utahfishfinder.com[/url]
Send Rich an email if you feel so strongly about it. Tell him that Kent says hi.[/quote]
Thanks a billion for the help Kent.
Do you seriously want me to mention you though?[
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Is it bad to want credit? Well.... i guess not. And no, last I checked it was NOT a crime criminally speaking. Whomever took it upon themselves to Take your post simply wanted others to know about the Fishing that you experienced and shared. It's not about who made the post, it's about the fishing experience and what others can take from it to make their trip better for them.
In my opinion, your simply making more out of the whole situation that what it is. Sadly enough, these comments by you are viewed as someone simply looking to brag and make it all about themselves and not about what you used to catch These fish, the technics used and how someone else could capitalize on your experiences and make their trip a great one all the way around.
If your real name was attached to the report, this could be different. However, unless they know you from here, your Then no different than anyone else. Sorry my friend. I just see know reason for the uproar about a simple post being shared by someone else somewhere else.
Ok, go ahead and argue your point now for what it is worth. I know that most all of us That have been around here for any amount of time see it differently than you.
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So I just have a question for you RILEYFISH, and I am just asking. Would it be ok for me to take a post.....lets say by TubeDude...and use copy/paste to post it up on another fishing website without mentioning him? Seriously I am just asking here, by no means do I want to butt heads with you.
In the long run I am fine with info of mine appearing elsewhere....just kind of came as a shock. As a college kid I am used to giving credit where credit is due. Those guys at UT---------- should do some of their own homework. Either that or they should just change their name to BFT2.[
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P.S. Sorry TubeDude for name dropping you. I would not want to be associated with me either[
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I would bet my bottom dollar that this has already happened to TD more times thane wants to care to think. I guess your answer is going to very from person to person.
It's apparent now that you have come to grips with this info being shared. I, too agree with giving credit where credits due. And good on you for dealing with this in a better way than before. We all learn from our experiences and seems like this is one of them. Good luck to you fishing and thanks for sharing your experiences with others here.
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[cool][#0000ff]Sorry guys, I can't lend any words of immoral support on this issue. I think you are overreacting to something that doesn't need fixing. It happens. It's the Internet and when you post something it belongs to the masses. Fruitless to expect credit for it...or even a vague acknowledgement.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]As Kent suggested, the person who runs that other website does not have the best of reputations among old-time Utah web-cruising anglers. I had my own issues with him. But he is just trying to provide whatever info he can for the benefit of the visitors to his site. Not any consideration at all about potentially violating confidentiality or patting someone else on the back. Not expected and not necessary.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]I put up a "few" posts my own self and sometimes I get requests for permission to "accomodate" my stuff...but more often I don't. I have seen my exact words reposted on a lot of other forums...without any mention of the source. No biggie. [/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]In your academic world you are used to having to cite references and sources for anything you take from printed sources. That's the way it is. If it is published, it is usually copyrighted and proper credit must be given to legally quote it. Not so on the Internet. Wide open once posted.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]We all like to receive proper credit and recognition for our accomplishments. But when it comes to fishing it becomes very socialistic..."From each according to his abilities to each according to his needs." We are all eager to soak up everything we can from others more experienced. And, if we are properly grateful, we pass it on whenever we get the chance. No need to get all tangled up in running a list of credits (like a movie) after every post we share with others.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]Do I get "miffed" when I see that something I posted has been "used" elsewhere...without giving me any credit? Not usually. I prefer to be happy in knowing that maybe...just maybe...I helped someone else. Nothing wrong with being a "secret Santa" when it comes to fishing. [/#0000ff]
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Very well said TubeDude, and I agree....DANG, we are just getting along way too well, got to be the Holiday spirit...LOL
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[cool][#0000ff]Tanks.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]Holiday spirits? Some folks tend to get more obnoxious when they had too much. Others just even things out by being obnoxious all the time.[/#0000ff]
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Thanks a billion for the help Kent.
Do you seriously want me to mention you though?[
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It doesn't matter to me either way. I have fished with Rich several times and he is a nice guy. He is just trying to earn a few extra bucks and provide a service at the same time.
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