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Are unscented Yamamoto grubs and senkos, etc... Legal on minnersville?
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Don't they still have salt?
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Great question. Not sure about the answer but this is a quote from the guidebook. [size 2]
"Manufactured, human-made items that may not be digestible—including items that have been chemically treated with food stus, chemical sh attractants or feeding stimulants—may not be used on waters where bait is prohibited."
Minersville is "artificial flies and lures only" so my question is if you eliminate bait and anything that is "Manufactured, human-made items that may not be digestible" seems like that would include artificial flies and lures as well.
Anyway it is very confusing seems like if the warden wanted to cite you he could find a way.

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Sometimes the DOW regs are as confusing as the tax code.[:p]
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Yes.
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You're reading half of the sentence.

Quote:Manufactured, human-made items that may not be digestible—including items that have been chemically treated with food stuffs, chemical fish attractants or feeding stimulants—may not be used on waters where bait is prohibited.

If they are salted they're illegal. If they are treated with attractants, stimulants or food stuff they're illegal.

If they're just plain old rubber worms they're fine.
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Well..no I have actually read and reread the reg many times. I guess I just don't like the way it is written. So I guess if it is artificial but made out of something that is digestible...ie "salt" it is illegal. Seems like feathers would be digestible, so salt is illegal but a big bait that is NOT digestible like say a big metal spoon bait with treble hooks is legal???Wow that is brilliant.
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Yammies have salt and amino acids...DOW regs say...bad![frown]
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In previous discussions on the matter, it was determined that salted plastics were illegal on AFL waters, hence senkos would be considered illegal. I have seen an "unsalted" senko for sale that would legal to use.
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Seems like most plastics have some sort of scent or attractant in them now days.

Not sure what a warden might say. Likely a warning and clarification I would hope.

As for Minersville Bass they have started to bite pretty good the last few days.

I know of a 6 lb super fat pig of a Smalley that was caught this morning. Sorry to say I have no photo.
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Thanks for the info.
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No problem.

I get a kick out of this one guy that fishes Mininersville Bass probably more that anybody.

If you fish close enough to him this time of year you will hear him start cussing every 5 or 10 minutes.

"G.D. trout"

"Sum beachen trout"

"M F-un trout"

I can hear him from the front porch sometimes.
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Fish are a whole lot more likely to swallow a salted bait and be injured badly enough to not survive. A [size 4]big[/size] metal spoon with [size 4]big[/size] treble hooks is not likely to be swallowed very deeply.
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A large metal human-made spoon may not be swallowed but large barbed hooks are hard on trout unless the barbs are bent down. I would think much harder on them than salted plastic baits, or fish attractant. The reg just seems a little silly.

Requiring barbless hooks on Minersville seems like it would be more effective at protecting fish than the current reg as it stands. Not sure how many fish die after swallowing a plastic bait salted or unsalted.
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A large hook in the jaw might be hard on a trout. A small barbless hook can be deadly when hooked in their gills.
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Fish have a tendency to swallow a scented bait like a Senko. With the salt in them, they expand once digested and can cause intestinal blockages leading to the death of the fish. It makes sense to me.
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what seems strange to me is that fly tying material that has been treated with salt, such as drying feathers or tanning hide, is still allowed. also is there not chemicals involved in dying. I have chewed on a Zonker and its quite salty.
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There's chemicals in rubber or plastic worms. Release agents to allow them to come out of the molds too. But they're not attractants, food, or stimulants.
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This regulation was specifically put in place because of problems at Minersville Reservoir...fishermen were finding that they could soak foam ear plugs in some kind of fish attractant and catch lots of fish (similar to using powerbait)....the problem was that the fish were swallowing the ear plugs and were, thus, very difficult to release effectively. It was after this became a problem at Minersville that the regulation was changed and began reading as was noted in this thread....

....before the regulation change, I liked using scented plastics in the fall at Minersville and had pretty good success. But, like the ear plugs, I also found that many fish were swallowing the plastics which made them difficult to release healthily. This regulation is in place for good reason and scented plastics are illegal, without any doubt, at Minersville. I would wager money that you would be definitely warned for using them if caught and possibly if not probably ticketed.
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Well...there ya go. Plastics without scent or salt...ok. Scented ear plugs or any scented or salted plastics no good. So if you fish plastics find a custom manufacturer that will make your baits with no scent or salt.
I may be wrong but I kinda think it is more of a problem with the fish swallowing the hook and then the fisherman injuring the fish when removing the hook.
I can see a bait fisherman using the ear plug idea...and like with most bait fishing techniques the fisherman doesn't set the hook until the fish has swallowed the bait and injured the fish.
I have been fishing with various plastics for years...not on Minersville after the reg [:p]...and can't really think of a time when the fish was injured enough not to survive. I fish only artificial flies and lures...and practice catch and release haven't fished with "food stuffs" since the snoopy pole days. Oh well...it is what it is...let's just go fishin!
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