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I was just looking at the stocking report . Last year they planted over a million fish . This year so far they have only planted 40,000 . What is up with this?
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Don't know what's going on this year, but 1,000,000+ is pretty normal for H. I suspect they are just behind in their data entry. You could contact IDFG and ask them. When I've contacted them, they've always gotten back to me. About 1/2 the time I think it's just BS, but they do get back to me.

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I believe they are cutting back on stocking because of the past few years of good wild reproduction. That coupled with the average size fish being smaller because of the high amounts of trout in Henrys currently is why they are cutting back for a few years. There should be an older thread on this somewhere in the archives.
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That would be awesome, if that is what is happening. For a little while at any rate.[ Smile

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I agree FG . Lets see what happens . The good news is the 40,000 that were planted were Brookies .
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Hopefully a good portion of them are male brook trout.
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I sent an email to fish and game asking how many male brook trout were planted. However, they responded not by answering my question, but instead informing me the brook trout were sterile. Yes I already knew that, but I just want to know if they stocked male brook trout.
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There answer was correct. they are sterile but contain both sexes. (see link,) http://www.gofishbc.com/about-us/what-we...mance.aspx

old methods that were not FDA approved involved turning al fish into males by feeding them testosterone. new methods only involve heat and pressure.

I would think more stockings are yet to occur this fall for Cutties and Hybrids but as was mentioned they did reduce cuttie numbers by about half last year due to the reasons mentioned.
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[quote Fishbouy]There answer was correct. they are sterile but contain both sexes. (see link,) [url "http://www.gofishbc.com/about-us/what-we-do/fish-health/stock-performance.aspx"]http://www.gofishbc.com/...ock-performance.aspx[/url]

old methods that were not FDA approved involved turning al fish into males by feeding them testosterone. new methods only involve heat and pressure.

I would think more stockings are yet to occur this fall for Cutties and Hybrids but as was mentioned they did reduce cuttie numbers by about half last year due to the reasons mentioned.[/quote]

Unfortunately these fish won't color up like a traditional spawning male. Not much of a mount unless your taxidermist is a good artist and then it really doesn't matter what the original fish looked like.
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I will make the caveat that I have not looked into the brookie stocking program much regarding Henry's. I was however told by an officer last year at Henrys that they were going to start stocking male brookies at Henrys. That made it sound as though they had not stocked male brookies before. I also see the link you provided, but that actually doesn't support your statement that there are both male and females stocked.

I do know they can produce all female triploid populations, which is even confirmed in the link you provided. I also know they can produce all male triploid populations of various species. I am not sure on the specifics of brookies, and how they do it at Henrys. That was my question. I did not assume that because a population of stocked fish is tripoid that there are both male and females. You can make that assumption (or maybe you have personal information about Henry's to share so if you do please share), I was just looking for clarification, which I did not get. And the link you provided didn't add to what I already knew.

MMdon may very well be correct regarding male triploid brookies not undergoing spawning changes. However, triploid males for other species do undergo drastic spawning changes. I realize that the brookies in Henry's do not undergo spawning changes, but I would be curious to know if that is because there are no/few males in Henry's or is because that triploid male brookies don't do this.

I have asked a number of times about males in Henry's, maybe someone with info will respond at some point.
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From what I understand, they have been stocking sterile female brookies. Because of the interest expressed by many they were looking to purchase some sterile males in the future.
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Of those 40,000 a 1/3 of them must be chubs. I just fly fished Henry's the last two days and 1/3 of what I caught were chubs. Ok, I have to admit the one that went close to 12 inches fought pretty hard and I finally figured I caught another trout. I fished long and hard and only ended up catching13 trout and all were cutbows except 1 cutthroat. Let's hope it is better the 2nd week in October when I go again.
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[quote truchas_ole]Of those 40,000 a 1/3 of them must be chubs. I just fly fished Henry's the last two days and 1/3 of what I caught were chubs. Ok, I have to admit the one that went close to 12 inches fought pretty hard and I finally figured I caught another trout. I fished long and hard and only ended up catching13 trout and all were cutbows except 1 cutthroat. Let's hope it is better the 2nd week in October when I go again.[/quote]

Wow, no kidding! A few years ago, I fished the cliff area and caught 15 chub and three Trout in one day. I feared the worse then. It might be a time of year thing....I hope.
Thanks for the report.
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I was over by the cliffs as well. I don't know if I will go in August again. I had fun, but slower than at other times of the year.
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Maybe I am just lucky but I have fished Henry's for 20 years and I have never caught I chub. I always hear the numbers are on the rise but I have avoided them.
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You are probably catching the trout that are munching down on the chubs. Maybe I should tie a 8 to 12 inch fly that looks like a chub. Something that heavy should attract and big bookie and also make casting into the wind a piece of cake. I hope you can keep saying that for another 20 years about never catching a chub!
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It is interesting. I am always with someone else on that lake and I am the only one that catches them.
Hitting the schools I guess. I am guessing close to 20 years here. I manage to allude them for the mot part but that one trip, it was game on. That same year I did manage a 26", 28" and a 32" though.
Not as many of those to keep those 18" chub in check anymore. Time will tell.
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Brookie imitations generally catch more fish than chub imitations. [Image: bobwink.gif]