so ive been thinking and brainstorming on Lake trout fishing, Ive made and been using some heavy metal pop gear (big 6" blades) and as you can inagine reeling them in is a chore in itself,
so i got thinking and was wondering if it would work to attach the pop gear directly to the ball weight, then the Downriggers Line release to the tail end of the pop gear and hook just the fishing line and lure to that?
has anyone tried this? would it work?
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Sounds like an interesting experiment. I'd be interested to know how it works. I've attached pop gear to the ball and then set the lure attached to the release so that it is just above and slightly trailing the end of the pop gear. We've had some success with this. You have to lower your weight very slowly so the pop gear doesn't get wrapped around your other line.
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Sounds interesting and I know there may be some issues keeping things straight and working like PatchyD suggests but I'm all for getting rid of the hardware so I can just fight the fish. Cool idea. Later J
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Attach the pop gear to the down rigger ball, but don't attach the release to the pop gear. Attach the release to the line above the ball. At least as far up the the line as the pop gear is long.
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With the release on the end of the pop gear, you would not be able to reel up the line (from rod to the release) very tightly, or you'd simply pull the pop gear up to a vertical. And then it wouldn't spin the blades.
Not sure what effect a bend/sag in the rod line would be, other than leaving a lot of slack when the line pops free. Might not hook many that way.
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[quote RockyRaab]With the release on the end of the pop gear, you would not be able to reel up the line (from rod to the release) very tightly, or you'd simply pull the pop gear up to a vertical. And then it wouldn't spin the blades.
Not sure what effect a bend/sag in the rod line would be, other than leaving a lot of slack when the line pops free. Might not hook many that way.[/quote]
yeah I know that loading up the rod would be an issue (well maybe) was thinking maybe just setting it snug, so the slack was gone but still kept the gear horizontal
again, just thinking out loud as im not sure if that would work or not
[quote Fishrmn]Attach the pop gear to the down rigger ball, but don't attach the release to the pop gear. Attach the release to the line above the ball. At least as far up the the line as the pop gear is long.[/quote]
ive done it this way in the past, ust thinking id have better luck with my lure at the end of the gear keeping it running along the bottom rather then the 4' or so above the bottom
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That's funny, I was pondering exactly the same thing yesterday, and along the same lines of attaching a pop gear directly to the DR ball, but I foresee the same problems of getting everything all tangled up, especially while lowering the rig down to depth. I guess a guy could try using a short pop gear about 18" long and put a 3 oz weight on the bottom of it, so the pop gear rides nearly vertically through the water. Clip your release to the main DR cable a couple of feet above the ball, with a very short setback to your lure, and lower it all slowly down to depth. ???????? [crazy]
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[quote MisterCompletely] Clip your release to the main DR cable a couple of feet above the ball, with a very short setback to your lure, and lower it all slowly down to depth. [/quote]
guess great minds think a like lol
yeah Ive done it this way in the past,
but would like to be able to keep the lure on the bottom.
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The way we rig our down downriggers to fish with pop gear is to attach the pop gear directly to the DR ball. Lower your ball with the pop gear attached. Then lower your lure to just above and slightly behind the pop gear by using a sliding release called a shuttle hawk. You can either put a stop on your DR line slightly above your ball, or just watch the shuttle hawk go down on your sonar. This has worked well for us just don't get you lure/bait too far back form the end of your pop gear. Also the worst tangle I have ever seen came from getting a little two close to the pop gear. I don't know if you can buy shuttle Hawks locally but just do a google search and you will find mail order companys.
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I've done this before with success. Just have to spend a bit of time with it at a visible depth so you can learn how much of a bend you can put in your rod without messing up the gear.
I've never done it with blades as large as you are talking about. I would think with great big blades you might be able to pull harder.
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[quote PACMEN]I've done this before with success. Just have to spend a bit of time with it at a visible depth so you can learn how much of a bend you can put in your rod without messing up the gear.
I've never done it with blades as large as you are talking about. I would think with great big blades you might be able to pull harder.[/quote]
I use a cabelas Depthmaster rod for trolling lakers, thing is pretty darn stiff with little bend on load up so I wont be able to crank it to hard lol
thanks for the reply. glad to see this might work out pretty good for me
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