10-05-2015, 06:55 PM
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10-05-2015, 06:55 PM
10-05-2015, 08:21 PM
I believe the intent is to make them the same statewide.
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10-06-2015, 09:10 PM
[quote albinotrout]I believe the intent is to make them the same statewide.[/quote]
yes that IS what's happening beginning Jan 1st, from Sept. 10th-Nov 30th fishing for kokanee will be CLOSED STATEWIDE
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yes that IS what's happening beginning Jan 1st, from Sept. 10th-Nov 30th fishing for kokanee will be CLOSED STATEWIDE
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10-07-2015, 01:09 AM
It's really strange. I went up to Montana last year around this time, and from mid September to the end of November (I believe) you are legally able to snag and keep as many Salmon as you want. (It may not be as many as you want, but the limit is very high).
I wonder why the 2 states are the complete opposite on rules for the Kokes...
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I wonder why the 2 states are the complete opposite on rules for the Kokes...
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10-07-2015, 02:00 AM
Biologically speaking if the fish in Montana do not contribute to spawning due to hatchery fish being sufficient then what is the purpose of a limit? I believe that is the case at Strawberry as well. I doubt the ladders fish are doing much effective spawning. Not in other places such as Causey or Porcupine, however where natural spawning is occuring and the fish need protection. This rule is a feelgood rule to make people happy. Nothing to do with conservation.
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10-07-2015, 01:28 PM
I spent some time at the fish traps two weeks ago up at strawberry talking with the biologist. He said that the Kokanee in all 4 Utah koke waters are artificially planted. They have a quota of eggs that they harvest then the rest of the spawning kokes just die off and are buried in a big hole up in the mountains.
The DWR biologist said that none of our lakes are self sustaining in regards to Kokanee. They take the fertilized eggs and transfer them into a hatchery. The hatchlings are later transplanted into our lakes but we also get kokes from other hatcheries from out of state. I was under the impression that there are plenty of spawning Kokanee and once the quota for eggs is met, there is no use for the rest of them.
Take this info for what it is, but I don't see the need for this new regulation other than to make people feel better about protecting spawning fish which are going to die and not be used anyway.
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The DWR biologist said that none of our lakes are self sustaining in regards to Kokanee. They take the fertilized eggs and transfer them into a hatchery. The hatchlings are later transplanted into our lakes but we also get kokes from other hatcheries from out of state. I was under the impression that there are plenty of spawning Kokanee and once the quota for eggs is met, there is no use for the rest of them.
Take this info for what it is, but I don't see the need for this new regulation other than to make people feel better about protecting spawning fish which are going to die and not be used anyway.
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10-07-2015, 02:34 PM
Causey and Porcupine are self-sustaining. Look in the DWR stocking reports.
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10-07-2015, 04:48 PM
Not according to the head biologist at the only permanent Kokanee trap in the state.
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10-07-2015, 04:54 PM
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Causey and Porcupine are self-sustaining. Look in the DWR stocking reports.
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I don't have time to research it but I bet Moon Lake is also self-sustaining.
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Causey and Porcupine are self-sustaining. Look in the DWR stocking reports.
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I don't have time to research it but I bet Moon Lake is also self-sustaining.
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10-07-2015, 05:50 PM
[quote TT600]Causey and Porcupine are self-sustaining. Look in the DWR stocking reports.[/quote]
I'm man enough to admit when I'm wrong! You are correct. I called the DWR Kokanee Project Office and confirmed that Porcupine and Causey are self-sustaining. The Biologist said that he thinks even Strawberry could be self-sustaining but we would never see the numbers that there are there now.
As for the spawning Kokanee regulation, These regulations wouldn't hardly effect reservoirs like Flaming Gorge or Strawberry because of the aggressive managing of the kokes there. But yes, it does have a major impact on the smaller Kokanee fisheries around the state.
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I'm man enough to admit when I'm wrong! You are correct. I called the DWR Kokanee Project Office and confirmed that Porcupine and Causey are self-sustaining. The Biologist said that he thinks even Strawberry could be self-sustaining but we would never see the numbers that there are there now.
As for the spawning Kokanee regulation, These regulations wouldn't hardly effect reservoirs like Flaming Gorge or Strawberry because of the aggressive managing of the kokes there. But yes, it does have a major impact on the smaller Kokanee fisheries around the state.
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