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? for 'Drain and Dry' time period - SBennett - 06-01-2017
So, I boated in DC two Saturdays before Memorial Day and did not get de-conned.
On Memorial Day, 16 days later, I wanted salmon for a Memorial Day bbq and wanted to hit Strawberry for a morning trip but knew I was a few days short on dry time.
The State dry time is 18 days until June 1 then it is 7 days which made me question these standardized dry times for a state like Utah. Since dry times are based on humidity and temperature range how could we have standardized times in Utah? A boat in St. George should have a much less dry time than a boat in Brigham City?
I began to wondering what the State bases their time schedules off so after a little research I find the State refers to the 100th Meridian AIS Initiative.
This is all documented in the State statute or whatever you call it and actually lists the 100th Meridians website to find 'actual dry times' by entering your location and date.
I did so and lo and behold the Meridians calculator kicks out an 11 day dry time.
Just for kicks I entered my location in the summer months and the Meridians calculator kicks out a 4 day drying time.
Now it does not take a brain surgeon to figure out 11 days in the spring and 4 days in the summer is a much easier schedule to live with, right.
Armed with this new information I prepped my boat Sunday night with Salmon gear and set the alarm to head to Strawberry at 4 am.
Memorial morning came with a beautiful sunrise and extremely beautiful water.
Unfortunately, my sunrise was on DC again because half way up the canyon I turned in to a great big chicken and did not feel like wasting a beautiful morning arguing. Plus, since I was new to the Meridians calculator and maybe I read it wrong?
Anyways, my ? is if I would have been cited or not for not meeting the standardized dry time of 18 days?
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Re: [SBennett] ? for 'Drain and Dry' time period - redfrog - 06-01-2017
That's I good question, I'd like to hear more on the issue.
I don't have a boat but I do have a kick boat with motor and have to follow the same rules. I haven't looked to see if it is even possible to do the decontamination wash on it since the temp is so high. So far I've tried to stay away from DC in the spring and fall because I didn't want to have to wait so long so I could launch somewhere else. Now that its June it not as big of a deal.
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Re: [SBennett] ? for 'Drain and Dry' time period - a_bow_nut - 06-01-2017
When you would have been checked at the mouth of Daniels Canyon the checking station should have been able to decon your boat and you should have been ready to go. Or stop at Deer Creek and have them do the decon.
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Re: [redfrog] ? for 'Drain and Dry' time period - rbrtwjns - 06-01-2017
Well I headed for Strawberry on Memorial Day morning all prepared to stop at the inspection at the mouth of Daniels canyon and notice no signs telling all watercraft to stop. I pulled in to the Port of Entry and discovered not a single Fish Cop insight. No person, no vehicle, no nothing. So I thought wtheck and while pulling out had 2 other boats pull in also.
I said to my wife that maybe they were checking boats closer to the Berry but went all the way to Soldier Creek Marina and never talked or saw a DNR person all day.
Do they really care or just assumed that all boats on Memorial Day would be leaving the lakes or what??
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Re: [rbrtwjns] ? for 'Drain and Dry' time period - wiperhunter2 - 06-01-2017
Not sure what they are doing this year but last year, it depended on the time of day you got there, usually someone is there after 6am. What time of day were you there?
I'm not sure if everyone knows this or not but I read that if DC makes it through this year without any more mussels being found, they are going to lift the restriction on that lake next year. So it's been 4 years since any were found in DC.
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Re: [wiperhunter2] ? for 'Drain and Dry' time period - rbrtwjns - 06-01-2017
I was running late and was there at 7:30 AM
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Re: [rbrtwjns] ? for 'Drain and Dry' time period - wiperhunter2 - 06-01-2017
Well they should have been open, unless they don't start until June 1st[:/].
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Re: [wiperhunter2] ? for 'Drain and Dry' time period - MSM1970 - 06-01-2017
they where there memorial day afternoon, they where only checking water craft going up the canyon, there was at least 4 dnr officers with guns to make sure every water craft got inspected,
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Re: [MSM1970] ? for 'Drain and Dry' time period - Squawminnow - 06-01-2017
DNR officers always carry guns. They are State Law Enforcement just like UHP.
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Re: [SBennett] ? for 'Drain and Dry' time period - MasterDaad - 06-01-2017
A better argument would be:
"Deer Creek has been clean for 2.5 years and is about to come off the naughty list anyway. It's not really contaminated and everyone knows it. Why are you giving me a ticket for nothing?"
I mean if we're trying to play "lets make sense of laws" -- start with the initial justification for the testing in the first place.
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Re: [a_bow_nut] ? for 'Drain and Dry' time period - dubob - 06-04-2017
[quote a_bow_nut]When you would have been checked at the mouth of Daniels Canyon the checking station should have been able to decon your boat and you should have been ready to go. Or stop at Deer Creek and have them do the decon.[/quote][font "Comic Sans MS"][#800000]Kind of what I was thinking also.[/#][/font]
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Re: [SBennett] ? for 'Drain and Dry' time period - a_bow_nut - 06-04-2017
After being at DC last week and wanting to go to Pelican yesterday I went and had my boat cleaned Friday at the island boat ramp.
When I talked to the people at the checking station on my way out to the basin they said that all that would have been done was they would take the time to clean your boat and you would have been on your way in about twenty minutes as long as there wasn't a line to get peoples boats washed.
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Re: [wiperhunter2] ? for 'Drain and Dry' time period - Aquaticbotulism - 06-06-2017
I was told by the FnG dude at east canyon that the mussel probation period should be lifted at DC this coming January!? He also said there never was/were any mussels found just a bad test result which makes the probation mandatory regardless of what's actually there same thing at sand hollow a couple years back!? I truly hope they don't exist because I know there's a lot of folks who aren't as honest and never admit to being on deer creek yesterday let alone being on lake Powell yesterday where it is a legit problem!
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Re: [Aquaticbotulism] ? for 'Drain and Dry' time period - wiperhunter2 - 06-06-2017
Thats the story I've heard as well, I guess it's better to be safe than sorry.
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Re: [wiperhunter2] ? for 'Drain and Dry' time period - Aquaticbotulism - 06-06-2017
Absolutely!
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Re: [Aquaticbotulism] ? for 'Drain and Dry' time period - RockyRaab - 06-06-2017
I use a mnemonic to help me remember when the drying time changes from 16 to 7 days. It's MAM-SON (and I picture a lady and boy) which stands for March, April, and May, then September, October, and November. Those are the 16-day periods. Between then it's seven days, and the other times are ice anyway.
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Re: [RockyRaab] ? for 'Drain and Dry' time period - Fishrmn - 06-06-2017
Except it's 18 days in March, April, May, September, October, and November, not 16.
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Re: [Fishrmn] ? for 'Drain and Dry' time period - RockyRaab - 06-06-2017
Yes, it is.
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Re: [a_bow_nut] ? for 'Drain and Dry' time period - SBennett - 06-06-2017
I knew that neither D.C. or Strawberry would have a de-con station open at 5am, hence, did not want to risk a citation for dunking my boat before the 'State' dry time elapsed.
I know as well as everyone else that D.C. was chosen as the States poster child for AIS fees to be increased on marine motor owners.
Back to my original question.
Does anyone know anyone of authority that could tell me if I am safe following the 100th Meridian guidelines vs. the States blanket policy?
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