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Pineview Largies? 9-29-06 - leaky - 09-29-2006 Went out to my normal spots for smallies today. Nothing. One small smallie amd reasonable size perch. Got disgusted, got out of my tube and walked the shore a little. Flipped my reaper in some weeds about 3 ft. depth and caught a 16 in. and a 15 in. Largie I've caught maybe 2-3 largies there in many, many years. Here's a pic. of one. Came home about 4 pm, Leaky Re: [leaky] Pineview Largies? 9-29-06 - Hellsangler69 - 09-29-2006 Way to go Leaky . I have caught more largemouths at Pineview than I have muskie . I bet I have landed over 20 and I haven't fished it for a few years now but did have a 45 minute window last sunday and only caught one greenie from shore on a cut'r bug . [signature] Re: [Hellsangler69] Pineview Largies? 9-29-06 - leaky - 10-01-2006 Man, I guess I could use some lessons bud. I've had either a hook up or a follow with a near miss on 80% of my trips there for tigers, most on the small side. As I said, those largies were the first in many years but great size!!! Is that normal? I still like the smallie fight much better but I'm one of the few, I guess, that like to eat largies more, texture I guess.[crazy] They are more flaky, and I like that. Leaky Re: [leaky] Pineview Largies? 9-29-06 - TubeDude - 10-01-2006 [cool][#0000ff]Nice going. Glad you "lucked" into a couple of greenfish. Sorry your smallies didn't wanna play. They get kinda wimpy when the water temp drops. They go deep and get lockjaw. Both largies and smallies can be taken in cold months, even through the ice, but they are deep.[/#0000ff] [#0000ff][/#0000ff] [#0000ff]Some of us old timers remember when Pineview didn't have smallies, tigers or perch. In those days it had lots of trout, crappies, bluegills and largemouths. And, with no other competitive predators, the largemouth acted like largemouths. I have had 50 fish days on them in the spring and almost as good about this time of year before the really cold weather.[/#0000ff] [#0000ff][/#0000ff] [#0000ff]In lakes where both smallmouth and largemouth "coexist" you can sometimes find them in similar habitat, hitting the same lures. However, in many such lakes they will occupy different areas and hit different lures and presentations. Smallies seem to prefer open water with rocks and rubble. Largies seem to like structure, brush and weeds more...and may be shallower on the same days that smallmouth are hanging deeper. There are no absolutes though. You usually have to work to find either one.[/#0000ff] [#0000ff][/#0000ff] [#0000ff]About the table qualities. That is a subjective thing. It depends on personal tastes and on the size, physical condition of the fish, the water chemistry, food source and how it is prepared. Fish of the same size and species from different waters can turn out much different on the table, even using the same preparation methods.[/#0000ff] [#0000ff][/#0000ff] [#0000ff]I have eaten lots of both largemouth and smallmouth all over the country. (Sorry, bassaholics) I have had good and bad quality meals of both species. Some turn out firm and sweet. Others taste like moldy mush. Same with trout, catfish and other species.[/#0000ff] [#0000ff][/#0000ff] [#0000ff]There is often a world of difference in the texture and taste just in the way you cook them. "Moist" cooking...poaching, steaming or covered baking...will produce a softer end result that is flavorless without spices or sauces. Coating (dry or batter) and frying adds "carmelized" flavors from the browned coating and also cooks out more of the moisture in flesh, producing a firmer fillet on the table.[/#0000ff] [#0000ff][/#0000ff] [#0000ff]Almost any fish (even carp) can be turned into good eats with the right preparation. But, any fish from nasty water that has been improperly cared for before cooking, and is undercooked or overcooked, will likely turn out bad on the table.[/#0000ff] [signature] Re: [leaky] Pineview Largies? 9-29-06 - Fishhound - 10-01-2006 [black][size 3]Hey leaky,[/size][/black] [black][size 3][/size][/black] [black][size 3]I'm with ya on the Black bass eating - Although, I have to say that I also enjoy Brown bass as table fare too. I grew up where bass are native fish and regularly caught them for the purpose of eating them(both large and small). [/size][/black] [black][size 3][/size][/black] [black][size 3]That was back before anyone ever thought to catch and release anything - it was all hook and cook back then.[/size][/black] [signature] Re: [Fishhound] Pineview Largies? 9-29-06 - Zdr93523 - 10-03-2006 I was up there with Presaguy on Sunday and we got skunked, had one big Muskie follow a jig to the boat and then took off. That was all the action we got except for a bunch of nibbles on our plastics, I assumed they were Perch and my bait was way too big for them. I think we just weren't fishing deep/fast enough although we threw everything in the tackle box at them. Any advice for fishing with the water low in the fall, like it is now would be great. [signature] Re: [leaky] Pineview Largies? 9-29-06 - Bassin_Blitz - 10-06-2006 I have to say Leaky you are eating my babies !!! The reason you dont catch many largemouth is because thier numbers are way down thanks to the drought and stinking tiger muskies, not to mention you bass eaters. They are trying to make a comeback. Everytime you eat a 5 to 6 year old spawner you hurt the Largemouth fishery. They need a little help cut them some slack and eat a few small smallies if you have to. Hell eat a damn tigermusky they taste just fine[sly] [signature] Re: [Bassin_Blitz] Pineview Largies? 9-29-06 - leaky - 10-06-2006 I was wondering when I would get a comment from one of you elitists. I'm sure one largie makes a big difference, right? Especially considering the Tigers and smallies that are there feeding on your "babies". Hey Mr. wonderful, they just can't compete and my one just doesn't matter!!!! I do let all the others go that I've caught over the years, but I don't make any excuses to the likes of you. Give me a break!![mad] Leaky Re: [leaky] Pineview Largies? 9-29-06 - Bassin_Blitz - 10-06-2006 Well at least we agree on one thing, I am MR. WONDERFUL!!! [cool] LOL [signature] Re: [Bassin_Blitz] Pineview Largies? 9-29-06 - leaky - 10-06-2006 Well, --------------, in hindsight, I probably over reacted to your post. You probably meant well and was just trying to help the fishery. I was a little thin skined I guess.[unsure] I should be better at accepting a point of view without getting abnoxious about it, especially at my age!!!! I apologize. I'll keep working on it, no promises, though. It's hard to change after 70+ years. You may be surprised to learn that we ain't that far apart. I know, it's hard to see by my reply. I don't take back the basic comments, I just could have been a lot more decent about it. I do love eating the largies and there are a lot of fisheries around that have an abundance of em and I aim to only cull from them unless I get tempted too severely and have a weak moment.[unimpressed] Maybe the mercury testing results will help reduce the harvest?[shocked] By the way, I haven't met any Mr Wonderfulls yet. Maybe I could met ya. I am more open minded than I might reflect in my posts. I need a Mr. Wonderful before I leave this world to see what I did wrong. No, not quite right, I already know a lot of things I've done wrong. T.D. is the closest I've met so far but he's got his twitches too. LOL Leaky Re: [leaky] Pineview Largies? 9-29-06 - Bassin_Blitz - 10-06-2006 As with most Bass tournament anglers I know. I am a little over protective. I love Pineview!!! I fish it alot and have for 20 plus years. Just want the green fish to rebound and they are starting to. If we can get a couple more good water years they will do well. Unfortunately they will never reach the levels they once were. I may express my opinion about bass harvest but bottom line is if your are within the law then not much anyone can say. No hard feelings Blitz [signature] Re: [Bassin_Blitz] Pineview Largies? 9-29-06 - leaky - 10-07-2006 Good on ya! I agree about the Pine. I have noticed that the smallie population is getting larger in size. Hope the Tigers aren't overdoing it. I do love those smallies for their fight. Maybe between the 2 of us we got the message across for the largies. I do think though, even as prolific as they are they are they're too low on the predaton list. Too bad.[unsure] As you may have read, I did have a good day at Mantua for em. I wonder how long that will last? Not sure about the bait fishing decesion and it's getting hit pretty hard now for a small fishery. Have a few spots out in the desert but they can't stand to be hit more than a few time a year and I'm afraid folks are going to learn about em and kill it. [] Hey folks, don't even ask, Ok? Take care fellow fishing guy. Leaky Re: [Bassin_Blitz] Pineview Largies? 9-29-06 - leaky - 10-07-2006 Hey guy, I've a question for ya since you seem to be in the know about largies. What's the problem with Jordanelle? I know they're there but not that many? Is it again too low on the predation list with smallies and perch or what? I also know that smallies and perch are at Mantua. Why do the largies do so well there? Is that going to change? Leaky Re: [leaky] Pineview Largies? 9-29-06 - TubeDude - 10-07-2006 [cool][#0000ff]Since I am "almost Mr. W" I'll take a shot at this one. My observation over the years is that one of the basic differences between smallies and largies is their preferred habitat. Smallies seem to like more open and rocky shoreline, while largies love the stickups, brush and weeds. You will find either in the others' zones, but that is a general difference.[/#0000ff] [#0000ff][/#0000ff] [#0000ff]Not many shallow weed beds in Jordanelle, but there are some dandy flooded trees and bush during high water. That's where the largies will be for spawning and later for feeding...until the water drops. Same for Pineview. In Mantua the largies have lots of "salad" to bury themselves in almost all year. Great for spawning, nursery and ambush cover. You could never deplete the bass from Mantua. Too much food and too much cover. They like that.[/#0000ff] [signature] Re: [TubeDude] Pineview Largies? 9-29-06 - leaky - 10-07-2006 That makes sense! [sly] Leaky Re: [leaky] Pineview Largies? 9-29-06 - Bassin_Blitz - 10-07-2006 Ive only fished Jordanelle a couple of times and have caught largemouth both trips, and some pretty good sized ones at that. I suspect that the sheer number of smallies is part of it they seem to dominate in most cases. I think that there are alot of largies in there you just have to flip tight in the brush to get them. That was the case a couple of years ago when I was there. Jordanelle was not clear cut like all of our older reservoirs so there is brush all the way to the bottom and largemouth should be doing great there??? Where is bassrods and his pics of 7 pounders(4 pounders lol) I m sure has has caught a good number of green fish in there. [signature]