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Sportsman's warehouse - BearLakeFishGuy - 03-08-2007
Re: [BearLakeFishGuy] Sportsman's warehouse - TubeDude - 03-08-2007
[cool][#0000ff]I have had similar experiences, both with Sportsmans and at Cabelas. They do not stock EVERYTHING that the discriminating and specialized angler might need. There are many things that you have to order online if you have a particular need. That is especially true in tackle craft...lure making, fly tying, rod building, etc. [/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]Having been in retail sales, in the distant past, I can sympathize somewhat. Management has to make decisions as to what to stock to fill the available space. 100% of the time their decisions will be based upon a combination of demand and profitability. They must decide what the "average" angler will buy and in what quantities...and then that is what they stock.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]I'm sure you understand all that, but it IS frustrating to make a trip to a major supplier, with a shopping list, and then not be able to find any or all of the items you can't live without. And then, the ultimate "warp factor" is the sales person who rolls their eyes, looks heavenward, shrugs and says "I don't make those decisions." That's when I make my decision to buy more online and less at the local tackletorium.[/#0000ff]
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Re: [TubeDude] Sportsman's warehouse - road - 03-09-2007
Boy can I relate to that. I thought when cabelas came to town I would be able to go and pick up whatever I needed. Man has that not been true. When you can find someone to assist you they usually suggest that you order it online. I don't need to drive there to do that. The upside is if you order at the store there is no shipping. Great if you live close by. For me its about the same as shipping only now I have to pay sales tax on top of it. Good thing there are other places that carry what I need (want).
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Re: [road] Sportsman's warehouse - TubeDude - 03-09-2007
[cool][#0000ff]Yeah, like Victoria's Secret? A great line of "lures" but not much for fishing. Of course that depends on where you are fishing...and for what.[/#0000ff]
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Re: [road] Sportsman's warehouse - sinergy - 03-09-2007
Buy what you need online use the stores for demoing products then go home and buy it off the internet. I usually can find anything retail online for same or cheaper price (shipping included) and you dont have to deal with sales man or parking and have gear delivered right to your front door [
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Re: [TubeDude] Sportsman's warehouse - mactuna - 03-09-2007
Naughy naught Tube dude
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Re: [TubeDude] Sportsman's warehouse - drpepper - 03-09-2007
Good point Tubedude, I would even give up a few fishing trips if my wife would shop at Victoria's, be more fun to stay home.
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Re: [drpepper] Sportsman's warehouse - road - 03-09-2007
Victoria's was never ment for your wife to shop there. It was ment for you to go there and buy for your wife. Just ask your wife she'll tell ya!
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Re: [TubeDude] Sportsman's warehouse - road - 03-09-2007
The last time I was at Victoria's they didn't make anything for the *older* fish. Just them young hatchery plants.
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Re: [TubeDude] Sportsman's warehouse - Flycasting - 03-09-2007
Haha. [
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Re: [sinergy] Sportsman's warehouse - Jedburton - 03-10-2007
coming from someone who works full comission retail sales. That is a horrible and unethical way of shopping. If you are going to buy it online do your own dang research and then you are welcome to buy online all you want, but if you go to a retail establishment and use their facilities that they have put up the money to build so you can look at whatever product you want, you can should realize that adds value. The reason most products cost more at a retail store than online is because online retailers for the most part are just a couple of guys and a warehouse. They don't have to know anything about the product they just ship it. They don't have to pay employees or even have a storefront to display. Now trying to find a deal is one thing, but wasting someone elses time and money so you can go online and find it cheaper is quite another. People need to realize that if you don't put money into the system it doesn't work. Just my 2 cents.
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Re: [Jedburton] Sportsman's warehouse - flyanddrive - 03-10-2007
Now Jed, I like you had you have helped me out a time or two at your store (I am Jason's buddy) but come on, how is that unethical? I realize that it costs you time and therefore money to help someone window shop but that is just the way the ball bounces in the online era. I suppose that is why RC Willey has a web site as well and I'll bet that if you ask the brass they expect that to be part of their business too. Sucks for you but what can you do.
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Re: [flyanddrive] Sportsman's warehouse - Jedburton - 03-10-2007
The reason it is unethical is that the reason you pay more at a retail store is that we have to pay for electricity to have a store front, pay me to spend countless hours studying electronics so I can give you advice, and money to ship the stuff here so you can pick it up the day or withing a couple of days of looking at it. Let me put it this way. It is the same as someone coming in to your place of business asking you to do a job and then paying your friend for the job instead of you. Now yes it is a little different from that, but not much. Not all, but a lot of online retailers make their money because they have no overhead. They don't even have to know squat about what they sell and for the most part don't even have to warranty anything. Now I am not saying don't price shop, but if you look at online stores that maintain a storefront you won't find a lot of difference in price. I am also not saying don't shop online, but don't expect a product consultant who has spent countless hours and money learning what he needs to know to help people make a decision on a product to do your research for you and then use his knowledge to go buy it from someone who hasn't done a lick of work and just sits in a warehouse writing orders. I don't have an ounce of problem with someone doing their own research and work and then purchasing online, that is how online purchasing works and is designed to, But please don't expect people to work for free. I wouldn't come in to your place of business and ask you to work for free. All i am saying is when making a purchase consider that whoever is demoing the product for you whatever it is, spent time and money to learn what he knows and should be payed for his time. I just understand the situation all too well. I am never bitter about someone choosing not to purchase from retailers because they don't carry the product that person wants or because someone else did a better job of selling it, but to have made your decision based on what I or some other salesman told you and not pay me or whoever it be for the time I spent is unethical in my opinion. Maybe I am just too nice, but if I go into a store and don't know about a product and someone spends a lot of time teaching me and helping me make my decision I feel that person deserves my money and I believe their time is worth something. If you want a strong economy you put money into that economy. Lowballing prices just hurts the economy. There is a difference between looking for a good value and being cheap. Now I don't have a problem with you at all dude. It is just my opinion, but I do feel strongly about it. I guess it just comes from my blue collar background I believe a person should be paid for the work that they do in some way or another. Anyway just a couple more cents on the subject. Take it or leave it, but please consider the work the person standing in front of you is doing and consider how you would feel if the situation were reversed,
jed
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Re: [Jedburton] Sportsman's warehouse - 357bob - 03-10-2007
I'm with you Jed. Different line o fretailing bu tsame leaches it sounds like. I get people come in, get advice on what to purchase, go buy it online, then come back in and want my mechanics advise on how to make it work properly for them. Some times we just can't take it and tell 'em to call the place they bought it from for technical advise- boy that burns 'em up when they find out there is none.
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Re: [357bob] Sportsman's warehouse - Jedburton - 03-10-2007
exactly. That drives me nuts and after years of being the nice guy and giving them the advice and setting up their systems over the phone I have finally just started sending them back to the place they bought it from. As much as I like being the nice guy I have finally decided I am worth something and so is my time,
jed
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Re: [Jedburton] Sportsman's warehouse - petty4life - 03-10-2007
you the nice guy? since when?
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Re: [petty4life] Sportsman's warehouse - Jedburton - 03-10-2007
what do you mean when?[
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a lot while i make fun of you and outfish you. The insults are only to help you stay humble. I wouldn't want pride to get the better of you jason, jed
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Re: [Jedburton] Sportsman's warehouse - Kent - 03-12-2007
Jed, I understand where you are coming from. I have had a few tax clients over the years call me and say if you can just answer a few questions for me I can do my income tax return by myself. On a few occasions I have been a sucker and answered the questions, and in some cases I have been smarter and told them just to call the IRS and ask them. On the other hand I am a firm believer of "what goes around comes around". For those who have done favors for me I will go out of my way to return the favor and then some.
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Re: [kentofnsl] Sportsman's warehouse - ram4x - 03-12-2007
I don't work retail, nor am I a direct service employee. However, my father is, and his business is located in a very, very small town. He helps the customer in whatever way he can, whenever he can regardless of whether or not that person is likely to buy from him at that given moment. Why? Because that person remembers how they were treated, even if they are looking to save a buck. In this day and age where everyone has the "me" attitude my dad still maintains the "you" service, and that's what has kept his business GROWING. I understand that there is a "cost" associated with doing business, but if you aren't willing to help me out under all circumstances, I'm less likely to go to you under any.
So, Jed and others, please take note. No matter what you want and what you expect, it is ultimately the buyer that sets the market. If you want to attract buyers you have to make sure that they feel that you are doing everything in your power to make them feel like you care! Not care about $$$$, but about the person you are servicing.
And to be short, I'd like to know where anyone who has replied, saying that they feel slighted by the internet shopper, works so that I may make up my mind as to whether or not I would like to utilize their services. If you feel confident that you have presented your case well, then you'd have absolutely nothing to worry about.
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Re: [ram4x] Sportsman's warehouse - Saberfish - 03-12-2007
This discussion is starting to have a dark side, everyone has their own feelings about it, but that's because there are really two sides.
Products on the Internet may be cheaper, but what do you do when we don't support our local retailers, and they close shop?
I don't have a dog in this race, but as a consumer, I have seen too many small local retailers go out of business (many in the fishing related industry) than I can to remember.
There are several good reasons to shop on line, but lets not forget to support our locals if we want to keep them.
just my opinion,
be nice!
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