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Pflueger Purist PP 9056 Fly Rod - OAK_CREEK_KID - 03-13-2009
Anyone have experience with this particular brand and model of rod? It is a 9' 5wt. I have a work buddy trying to sell it for his brother who is in the military. I have seen the prices for it on the internet and it is a real low cost item. I think I would only buy this off my friend for the okuma sierra 5/6 reel that comes with it. Maybe I will just buy the reel. Anyways, I appreciate any feedback.
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Re: [OAK_CREEK_KID] Pflueger Purist PP 9056 Fly Rod - 2ManyHobbies - 03-13-2009
It's all low-end gear, but that doesn't mean you can't catch fish with it. I don't have that particular brand or model of rod, but I do have a similarly inexpensive rod ( a WWGrigg 4wt ) that is my favorite for small streams.
The Okuma Sierra reel is something I do have. Also a lower price item (around $35-$40). The main issue I have with mine is that the drag adjustment is extremely sensitive so you have to be very careful about tightening down with a fish on.
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Re: [OAK_CREEK_KID] Pflueger Purist PP 9056 Fly Rod - FOD - 03-13-2009
I am a big fan of equipment that is good, functional and cheaper than most o the big names. I have only recently started using the "high end equipment" and it really is nice but it is not essential in being able to catch fish. I could probably say that I use the lowest end stuff you can buy or make. I have been using a 4wt home made blank for the past 3 years. Before that was the good old wwgrigg. that was a 5 wt. and the best rod to use for me while I was getting the hang of things. I diddnt care if I dropped it or my dogs kicked it over or whatever. It was durable and caught me a bunch of fish. So that is my point, Buy what you can afford and still be able to go fishing for the rest of the season. [
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Re: [FOD] Pflueger Purist PP 9056 Fly Rod - gstott - 03-13-2009
I totally agree about buying what you can afford. I have a couple of okuma reels, and they've worked well for me. My high end rods are lower Redingtons, and I've caught lots of fish on them. I have a cheap little 3wt 6 foot that I love. I can't remember the brand, but it was cheap. I had a friend who worked at a fly shop and he had a couple of Sages, and they were great, but not worth dropping $600 on when I couldn't really afford it. I'd rather save my money for tying materials and gas to get to my destination.
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Re: [OAK_CREEK_KID] Pflueger Purist PP 9056 Fly Rod - nymph_pimp - 03-13-2009
I agree with all the above said. Also rmember you get what you pay for, and somtimes in the long run it is cheaper to buy a little more expensive equipment that comes with warrenties, and maybe a little better construction. But if the price is right and it serves your purpose then go for it
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Re: [OAK_CREEK_KID] Pflueger Purist PP 9056 Fly Rod - flygoddess - 03-13-2009
I had a Pflueger Rod. Not sure what model, but it was a 9' 5 weight. Now that was my first BOUGHT rod (I have several hand me downs) so it was a very long time ago.
While I will agree that you don't need a high end rod for catching fish, I have caught fish on a $10 bamboo pole from Walmart, there is a reason they are more expensive.
Better hardware, light which means less fatigue and easier to learn with, not to mention better tapers.
In the long run, if it is something you plan on doing often and for many years, I say go with the best you can afford and as mentioned WARRANTY!!!
As far as that Pflueger, sure it caught fish, but to be honest, it was like casting a CB radio antenna. If you don't know any better it will work, but I would recommend it to anyone, because it can turn you off of fly fishing, plain and simple.
I do appreciate and respect the high end gear, because there is NO cheap rod made, like them.
It is all about the flex and the rod taper. These things are created from allot of time and experimenting and by PEOPLE that are very knowledgeable on this. Then occasionally, the Chinese market tries to duplicate these TAPERS & FLEXES. Some get close. There is no comparison.
That is like a Mechanic using WALMART tools or SNAP-ON, there is a difference although they do the same thing.
REELS, for trout I firmly believe is only a place to store your line. I have had some big trout, but my reel has no drag and I still land them with ease. I even have the burned fingers from them running.
In closing, I say, don't waist your money on the rod, the reel....a possibility.
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Re: [flygoddess] Pflueger Purist PP 9056 Fly Rod - FOD - 03-14-2009
everything you wrote is very valid but dont you think that if you learned to drive using a cheap car that got you from point A to point B it would be acceptable while your learning how to drive. When you get to be a more experienced driver then an expensive car would be more practical. That way you dont go out and wreak your nice expensive car that was just a luxury not an essential tool to use. I just think a brand new high end rod is like a brand new high end new car and I would not want to even use the rod if I diddnt have something to learn with and beat up a little. I am just saying that I am glad I diddnt buy a new sage, or whatever is considered high end until I knew what kind of wear and tare I was going to put on it. And with how much I bang stuff around I probably still wont buy the very most expensive lux rods.(unless I get a good deal). Your right about the quality though. When you use one of those light nicely tapered rods its like driving a porche. I just cant justify buying a porche until I retire. LOL I am just a young beat up truck kinda guy for now.[fishon]
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Re: [FOD] Pflueger Purist PP 9056 Fly Rod - flygoddess - 03-14-2009
My only response to that is YES to learn to drive, a cheap car is a good answer...but not the same with a fly rod or several other things. Go buy a $50. guitar, then go buy a $500. Then compare. The more expensive is going to be MUCH EASIER to learn on, therefore keeping your interest.
I am not saying to go out and buy a $700. rod, but the best you can afford.
I will point out, I did have a Pflueger....not easy to cast all day. A $14. Eagle Claw will catch fish, but it is hard for a newbie to get any line out.
And NO you don't need to cast 60', but it is needed at times and nice to be able to do it.
TFO is in a lower price bracket, has a GOOD action and a FULL warranty.
Back to the cars...do you want to learn on a car that is very hard to steer, hard to get moving....that is the comparison.
And for the record, I have a W.W. Griggs 6' 3 wt.....$29. but it is really fast and hard to load up...okay for streams. But I Also have a W.W.Griggs VINTAGE $85. I love that rod because it is half glass, half plastic and nothing cast like it.
While I worked for Orvis, I had a gentleman come in and bought the Streamline. $95. Good price, no warranty. Shut it in his car door.
Had to come back and buy another. Guess what, the Clearwater was $175. and FULL 25 year warranty.
I bought a $175. TFO. Tip has broke twice in the same spot by the ferrule. So, add $25. plus $10. shipping and insurance each time and that rod is now over $200.
You GET what you pay for.
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Re: [flygoddess] Pflueger Purist PP 9056 Fly Rod - FOD - 03-14-2009
oh now it is on LOL you had to mention guitar. That is almost a perfect example for me to use. I respect what you said and I agree a $500 guitar is easier to play. That is my point though. If you have the desire to play guitar than it wont matter how hard it is to play it. I learned on a very crappy old guitar with string that was seriously made out of what felt like 50# test monofilament. I wanted to learn so badly that I didnt get discouraged about how tired my hand was and over all it just made it stronger, I also knew that if I could use this guitar I could use any guitar that I was handed, then when i used a higher quality guitar I really started to advance, and then when I picked up an electric guitar......... do you see what I mean
I know the warranty I get it, that is what makes or breaks the decision.
I hope that we are helping oak creek kid out a little bit with our different opinions. I think that you have very good points flygoddess.
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Re: [FOD] Pflueger Purist PP 9056 Fly Rod - flygoddess - 03-14-2009
My first guitar was a $50. My fingers bled. About a six months later, I got a Guild. Needless to say within two years I was playing professionally.
I guarantee you this, I would NOT have kept playing, but due to the right tool I have been playing for the past 30 years. In fact, that and guiding/teaching is my income.
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Re: [flygoddess] Pflueger Purist PP 9056 Fly Rod - OAK_CREEK_KID - 03-14-2009
I thank you all for your input, thanks! I have only been at this wonderous thing called fly fishing since last July and out of three rods my favorite is my TFO Lefty Kreh Pro Series 8' 6" 4 wt. Not a pricey rod, but I love it and I can cast well over 70" and lay a dry fly without a splash. I'll tell you, lots of practice casting on alot of outings without nary a bite from those elusive trout, but I am slowly getting better. I think I will pass on the Pfueger rod and start saving for one of those higher end rods. I was at cabelas the other day and held one of those limited quantity Sage Rods they just started reselling and I wanted it so bad. That Sage was so balanced and light as a feather compared to my TFO and it was a 9' 5 wt.! I just don't have the $500 to $600 to spend on one, maybe some other day.[
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Re: [flygoddess] Pflueger Purist PP 9056 Fly Rod - gstott - 03-14-2009
I find this really interesting, does everyone that fly fishes play the guitar? Music and fishing are my two passions. I have at least a dozen guitars, five basses, a couple of mandolins, a couple of banjos, and a bunch of other instruments. As for the comment that was made about a first guitar with nylon strings like 50lb test, well nylon string guitars do tend to be easier on the fingers than steel ones. I suppose the neck is wider on a classical guitar, making it difficult for small hands, but the strings are definitely softer, so I don't know if that's a good comparison to a cheap fly rod. I must say that the Chinese and Korean guitars are getting pretty decent, though they may need more work on their rod building skills.
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Re: [gstott] Pflueger Purist PP 9056 Fly Rod - FOD - 03-14-2009
The banjo is my next goal. Thats awesome that you have so many tools to play music. when I learned on the nylon strings I was about 13 years old. ever heard of a cat stringed guitar. That is what I think it was. the strings diddnt hurt but you have to press down on them a heak of alot harder than you would a metal string just to get a clear sound without any buzzing. So any way I dont want to argue about guitars because it seems I am the odd dog out maybe some time a little jamming session will be a fun way to end a little flyfishing adventure[
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Re: [FOD] Pflueger Purist PP 9056 Fly Rod - gstott - 03-15-2009
Banjo is a lot of fun to play, you should definitely give it a try. I think a little music is always a good way to end a good day. Or a bad one for that matter.
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Re: [gstott] Pflueger Purist PP 9056 Fly Rod - FOD - 03-15-2009
their is no replacement on the feeling you get when your playing music. On that note their is no replacement on the feeling you get when you hook into a fish with a fly. Even better if you tied it yourself. Maybe that is why people that fly fish tend to play music. They spend there lives getting know all the feelings that you cant find any where else
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Re: [FOD] Pflueger Purist PP 9056 Fly Rod - gstott - 03-16-2009
I have to agree with you. I also think that creative people probably tend to gravitate more toward fly fishing, especially with the aspect of creating your own flies.
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