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Dry dropper combo? - shimano_jr - 06-30-2013
Hey I am planning on fishing the lower Provo this next week and I usually see the guys fishing with indicators but I was thinking of doing a dry dropper what do you guys think about that?
And I was wondering what is the best way to rig it?
Or maybe the best flies to try with he combo? Or should I just use and indicator?
-Hunter
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Re: [shimano_jr] Dry dropper combo? - flygoddess - 06-30-2013
I do a PMD dry off a Tag and a Sow Bug or Pheasant Tail on the end.
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Re: [shimano_jr] Dry dropper combo? - paparex - 07-01-2013
A couple of things to consider.
1. Utah law now allows three (3) flies on. Most of us are used to just 2. Casting an additional Zebra midge is not too hard, but throwing 3 dries is something I cannot do as of yet.
2. If you use a hopper-dropper or a dry-dropper, you will want to limit the length of the dropper. Most of the time it is 18-27 inches under the dry. I fish a weed filled spring creek and my second fly is 9 inches under the first. If you want to get the dropper down and the current is swift, one may wish to use additional weight, 4-9 feet of leader,etc. This sets up to be problematic for me with a dry on top but OK with an indicator. If you want to fish a "Provo Bounce Rig", http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZ0hvZX2Uf0, I suggest an indicator.
Isn't fly fishing addicting?
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Re: [paparex] Dry dropper combo? - TroutMan93 - 07-01-2013
Well what about a hopper then tie on a hopper dropper then a dropper hopper? [bobhappy]
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Re: [TroutMan93] Dry dropper combo? - RockyRaab - 07-01-2013
You've been watching those Hank Patterson vids, haven't you?
I've only used a dry/dropper rig a few times, but it's important to have a highly buoyant dry and/or a very small dropper nymph, for obvious reasons. If the trout are targeting tiny dries, it's problematic to get a working combination.
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Re: [RockyRaab] Dry dropper combo? - flygoddess - 07-01-2013
With the three fly option now, not so problematic. One large Dry, one smaller dry and a nymph or pupa. When fishing #32 dries, many attach a larger dry first so they can see the take.
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Re: [shimano_jr] Dry dropper combo? - Dgallen - 07-01-2013
It'll work great. The most important thing will be being able to see your dry fly or indicator depending on what you use. I love fishing a #16 parachute adams with a zebra midge 18 inches under it. If the current is fast and you need to get it down fish a nymph with a beadhead or some ribbing to help it get down.
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Re: [Dgallen] Dry dropper combo? - RockyRaab - 07-01-2013
So now the question is how to tie it up. I've seen the dry on a short dropper, and I've seen the nymph dropper ties to the dry's hook bend. So what are the arguments either way?
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Re: [RockyRaab] Dry dropper combo? - Dgallen - 07-01-2013
I always tie it off the bend of the dry. The only argument I've heard people make with that is that your line can get pulled down on the barb when playing a fish and the hook will cut your line. I've never had that happen, even with big (5-6 lb) fish caught the same way.
You can also fish a nymph-nymph combo with the same set up. We catch some piggies out of the Madison River with that set up and once again, the barb has never cut or weakened the line.
The only con I can think of that is a realistic one with either set up is you are prone to get more knots and tangles.
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Re: [Dgallen] Dry dropper combo? - RockyRaab - 07-01-2013
I doubt that the line can get pulled to the barb. To do that, you have to hold the dry and pull the dropper at a 90° angle - something that simply can't happen in a fight.
Tying to the upper bend sure would make it easier to change flies. I use what you might call a "double drop-shot" technique for fishing two nymphs, using an extra long tippet. I think that's what some folks call the Provo Bouncer. But changing either fly entails replacing the whole rig because the tippet is one piece from leader to the split shot at the very end.
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Re: [Dgallen] Dry dropper combo? - flygoddess - 07-01-2013
Problem I have with tying to the bend is I prefer Barbless hooks. That dropper can slide off. Other problem I have is I don't feel the fly you are tying off of floats naturally. You can still catch fish though. I fish a Tag all the time, my hubby off the bend. same flies. I catch more[
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Re: [flygoddess] Dry dropper combo? - RockyRaab - 07-01-2013
Yeah, but your flies smell better, FG, LOL!
I think if I use a dry/dropper in future, I'll just leave an extra-long tag from the dry and tie the nymph to that. That's super easy with a Davy knot.
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Re: [paparex] Dry dropper combo? - LOVBASS117 - 07-01-2013
Are you talking about the creek in lehi
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Re: [shimano_jr] Dry dropper combo? - shimano_jr - 07-01-2013
Thanks everybody I will get out there and try it and tell you how it goes
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