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Update on Bear Lake Map - RipNLips - 01-24-2004
Well... My updated Bear Lake map is almost done. I'm still missing a few land marks like Rainbow Cove and The Pump House because I don't have accurate coordinates for them. What other land marks should be labeled? Let me know if you see errors such as having something labeled wrong. I'd like to mark all public concrete launches with a launch symbol. Which ones am I missing? It's 1.06 MB, so be patient if you click on the following link.
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Re: [RipNLips] Update on Bear Lake Map - AFDan52 - 01-24-2004
[font "Arial"][red][size 2] Hi there RipNLips, hey man you have done a great job on that map of Bear Lake. Way to go, are you going to have this printed out on a larger scale map for travel? This is the best map of that area I have seen, and the only one for fishing. Once again Fantastic job. If you print them up, count me in for one I would gladly pay for one.[/size][/red][/font]
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Re: [RipNLips] Update on Bear Lake Map - BearLakeMack - 01-24-2004
[font "Comic Sans MS"][size 3]You might as well add the pumphouse. Nice map.[/size][/font]
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Re: [RipNLips] Update on Bear Lake Map - Old_Coot - 01-24-2004
[font "Comic Sans MS"][size 2]Very well done, RipNLips,[/size][/font]
[font "Comic Sans MS"][size 2]One minor location would be those raw beach launches in garden city ... the one down at the end of 150 street and/or the other one a block or two north. Again, they are only minor points of interest.[/size][/font]
[font "Comic Sans MS"][size 2]Again, very well done.[/size][/font]
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Re: [RipNLips] Update on Bear Lake Map - BearLakeFishGuy - 01-24-2004
Your map looks great. However, I noticed there is one spot that is mis-labeled. You put "USU Jetty" on what should be Azure Cove Marina. The USU Jetty is only slightly north of Ideal Beach and for all practical purposes this jetty has been destroyed by years of high water and waves. I'd just put Azure Cove Marina where you currently have USU Jetty and not even include the USU Jetty since it is basically gone.
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Re: [RipNLips] Update on Bear Lake Map - BearLakeFishGuy - 01-24-2004
Sorry, but I just double checked the map and what you have labeled as Pickleville Jetty is actually the USU Jetty. Azure Cove Marina is where you have it labled as USU Jetty. There isn't anything called Pickleville Jetty.
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Re: [RipNLips] Update on Bear Lake Map - wiperhunter2 - 01-24-2004
Is the Pickelville jetty the same one that is behind the Sweetwater condos or at least the old sweetwater? What is the name of that new marina that is by Gus Rich point? WH2
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Re: [wiperhunter2] Update on Bear Lake Map - fish1on - 01-25-2004
The Marina by Guss point is called Ideal Beach RV park and Marina. In the summer they will launch boats up to 20' with a tractor. Last weekend there was no access other than the private property area and they charge for access, not sure what the charge though.
I have GPS coordinates of the pump house and rainbow cove if it would help locate them on the map???
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Re: [fish1on] Update on Bear Lake Map - wiperhunter2 - 01-25-2004
If the water level ever comes up, will they allow the public to use the new marina? Two years ago we paid one dollar to drive through the private property into Sweetwater
to ice fish on the rockpile. WH2
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Re: [wiperhunter2] Update on Bear Lake Map - fish1on - 01-25-2004
That is a question I cannot answer. If I owned the property BFT'ERS would be free and all else would pay dearly! My goal is to be on the board of members for sweetwater and work issues for fisherman and access!
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Re: [RipNLips] Update on Bear Lake Map - Teroy - 01-25-2004
Great looking map RNL!!!
Ya wouldnt happen to have one for Strawberry would ya?? [
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Re: [RipNLips] Update on Bear Lake Map - RipNLips - 01-25-2004
Thanks for the input guys. Sorry I wasn't able to get back to this thread yesterday. I brewed two 5 gallon batches of ale that pretty much took all day. On top of that, I've been feeling like you know what because of a cold.
AFDan52 - I figure people can download it and print it themselves. If you don't have a printer that will do the job you want, take the file to Kinkos and they'll print you a nice one.
Old_Coot - Not sure whether I want to include the beach launches or not. However, if somebody wants to send me the coordinates I'll consider it.
BLFG - Thanks. I'll make the corrections. Even though it's been obliterated, I think I'll keep the USU Jetty labeled because many fishing reports in the past have refered to it.
fish1on - Thanks. I'll change the name of the marina. Yes I would like the coordinates of the Pump House and Rainbow Cove. Even though the placement of the labels is general (no actual point) I've been trying to put them as close to the actual point as I can.
Teroy - Fish-N-Map ([url "http://www.fishnmap.com/"]http://www.fishnmap.com/[/url]) has done a great Stawberry - Soldier Creek Reservoir map. That's the one I use. If they had one for Bear Lake I probably never would have spent time on one myself.
If any of you guys have info you think I'd be interested in for the map and you don't want to keep bouncing this thread back to the top, PM it to me. The file size is now 2.74 MB. I turned all JPG compression off so it will not get fuzzy quite as quick if you enlarge it.
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Re: [RipNLips] Update on Bear Lake Map - fish1on - 01-25-2004
Cisco beach N41* 57.078' W111* 16.687'
Pumphouse N41* 51.981' W111* 17.796'
Rainbow cove is a few miles North of Cico Beach
Thought I would post this for all to have instead of a PM!
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Re: [fish1on] Update on Bear Lake Map - Old_Coot - 01-26-2004
[font "Comic Sans MS"][size 2]Fish1on,[/size][/font]
[font "Comic Sans MS"][size 2]Do you happen to know what datum those coordinates are in?[/size][/font]
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Re: [Old_Coot] Update on Bear Lake Map - wiperhunter2 - 01-26-2004
I've got a question OC, what does datum mean?
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Re: [Old_Coot] Update on Bear Lake Map - fish1on - 01-26-2004
Old Coot,
My GPS is the Garmin Etrex like yours.
The map Datum is the factory default: WGS 84 (World Geodetic Survey,1984)
Position format is: Hddd*MM.MMM'
Units: Statute
North Ref: Magnetic
Variance: 013*E
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Re: [wiperhunter2] Update on Bear Lake Map - fish1on - 01-26-2004
WH,
I think Old Coot logged out!
A map Datum is a reference model of the earth's shape. All maps use them and when comparing GPS coordinates to a map you should use the same datum for best positioning. Hope this helped!!
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Re: [wiperhunter2] Update on Bear Lake Map - Old_Coot - 01-26-2004
[font "Comic Sans MS"][size 2]WH2, simply, put, datums are GPS coordinates from "different points of view". Different datums have been used by different organizations over the years. A given set of coordinates in one datum can be a quarter of a mile off from the same coordinates of another datum. The fact that there is more than one datum has something to do with the fact that the earth is a sphere rather than flat. I am VERY far from knowledgeable about datums but I do know that if you are trying to find a specific location (like GeoCashers do), you'd better make sure your GPS unit is set up to match the same datum as the cordinates that are given you. All GPS units allow you to change datums in their setup screens.[/size][/font]
[font "Comic Sans MS"][size 2]The two most common datums used are NAD27 and WGS84. WGS84 is the default for most GPS units. But many maps show Long/Lat in NAD27.[/size][/font]
[font "Comic Sans MS"][size 2]If you use the same GPS to "Mark" a spot as you use to go back to that spot, then datum doesn't matter. But if someone gives you coordinates and you plan to get close to that spot, then you need to pay attention to datums. That is why when ever I give someone coordinates, I also tell them what datum I used to mark those coordinates.[/size][/font]
[font "Comic Sans MS"][size 2]So, how important is it to pay attention to datums? That depends on how close you need to get. If being off by 600 feet matters to you, then pay attention to datum. If being off by 600 feet is close enough, then don't wory about datum.[/size][/font]
[font "Comic Sans MS"][size 2]Here are a few Web sites that describe it much better than I:[/size][/font]
[url "http://gpsinformation.net/main/maps.txt"][font "Comic Sans MS"][size 2]http://gpsinformation.net/main/maps.txt[/size][/font][/url]
[url "http://www.esri.com/news/arcuser/0401/datum.html"][font "Comic Sans MS"][size 2]http://www.esri.com/news/arcuser/0401/datum.html[/size][/font][/url]
[url "http://216.218.220.254/eng/datums.html"][font "Comic Sans MS"][size 2]http://216.218.220.254/eng/datums.html[/size][/font][/url]
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Re: [Old_Coot] Update on Bear Lake Map - wiperhunter2 - 01-26-2004
Thanks Fish1on and Old_Coot, that sure makes sense. I was given a set of coordinates from Chuck some years ago, when I was just staring to fish Willard. When I went out to find the spot I found out it was not even in Willard bay but about 1/4 miles south of the water. I did not know there was more that one set of datums, so that clear up a lot, thanks guy. It sure is amazing what you can learn on a fishing site. WH2
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