Corn as bait

[catchinon]

Does anyone have a report on using corn as bait since the new regulation? Specifically Utah Lake and Deer Creek? Does it work for catfish or white bass or trout?
Any negatives to report?
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[TubeDude]

[#0000FF]Almost all species will slurp up "Niblet hackle". I have caught carp, cats, bluegills, trout and even some small largemouths on it. I don't regularly fish for carp but on trips where carp have been the target I have done well with it. A few kernels on a size 6 or 4 hook will usually suffice. Soak it on the bottom or below a bobber.[/#0000FF]
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[#0000FF]Not sure about white bass but I am betting they will hit corn.
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[RockyRaab]

I have never used it, and don't really plan to.

But I'm only a Lieutenant Kernel.
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[catchinon]

Ha ha, good one. But then you are kind of a funny guy.
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[catchinon]

I caught some of those little white bass in Lincoln harbor on a #12 or 14 gold salmon egg hook and a smidge of worm. Bet that would work with a kernel of corn, too.
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[UThunting]

When I was a kid we would go to lake Powell and stay on a house boat my parents always had canned corn with every dinner I would never eat the corn so I could use it for bait (I did not know anything about bait laws then) I could catch about everything on corn largemouth small mouth bluegill crappie catfish etc.

I do know it can help with Kokanee but there is a little secret to that you need to know.

Also I'm not sure what waters are legal to use corn I do not think it's all waters.
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[SkunkedAgain]

Bblake really whacked the carp on Saturday with corn on Cutler... I hadn't had much luck when I had tried it before... But seemed to work as well or better for carp than the worms were... Don't think we caught any other kind of fish on the corn... For all the hype about using corn and it being the forbidden bait for so many years, I'm not too impressed with it and have only tried it a couple times and this was the first time we caught anything on it... Nice to be able to use it if you want, but I don't have to have it... I guess it is nice for those days when you don't have worms and need to catch some carp for cat bait.... Later J
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[UThunting]

I think the idea for making it illegal was the fact some fish can not digest it . Not that it was a great bait.
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[SkunkedAgain]

Yes I have heard that, but I think it was more the chum factor, that too many folks figured you had to scatter it to draw in the fish.... Always seemed to me if you fed the fish they won't be hungry to take your offering.. But when they scattered that much then the fish probably over loaded on it and that's when the poor digestion probably hit... Anyway, it's been fun to try it a little, so now I don't feel so bad for the locations I don't get to use it... Later J
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[TubeDude]

[quote UThunting]I think the idea for making it illegal was the fact some fish can not digest it . Not that it was a great bait.[/quote]

[#0000FF]There have been a lot of "reasons" presented for outlawing the use of corn. Some more reasonable than others. However, corn being indigestible by trout or any other species is a myth. They process it just fine...and it is probably less harmful than some of the bottle baits and new synthetic lure/baits when ingested.
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[#0000FF]Of greater concern at the time was the practice of trout tanglers chumming with corn. They anchored up in an area and threw out large amounts of corn to attract the fish. Reportedly, there were some areas at Strawberry where the corn piled up on the bottom and it got nasty. Reportedly.[/#0000FF]
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[#0000FF]A personal opinion is that it was one of the regulations enacted during the "TROUT RULE" era in Utah. If it worked too well it gave anglers an advantage. Similar laws prohibiting "party fishing", use of live minnows, restrictions against more than one rod, no donating of fish in the field, no more than one limit of fish in the freezer, etc. were mostly the result of DWR trying to give the hatchery pets a fighting chance against the hordes of happy harvesters.[/#0000FF]
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[Fishrmn]

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[#0000FF]Of greater concern at the time was the practice of trout tanglers chumming with corn. They anchored up in an area and threw out large amounts of corn to attract the fish. Reportedly, there were some areas at Strawberry where the corn piled up on the bottom and it got nasty. Reportedly.[/#0000FF][/quote]

I know you aren't convinced, but I can tell you that the Mud Creek Bay smelled like silage or corn squeezin's in May one year during a drought. The corn in question wasn't from that year, but from the previous year, as the Fishing Season (way back when we had a season, mostly because of trout) hadn't begun that year. There were heaps of corn drifting around between the dead sagebrush that was on the bottom of the bay.




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[Tin-Can]

Rocky, that means I out rank you.....I'm a "Kernel" (of) Corn. [sly]

My grandson is a "Corn nibblet" [laugh] and in a year he will be a Corn Nubbin.............

I used to fish with corn and Hominy when I was a kid in California. Was a bit surprised back in 1999 when I learned it wasn't legal here, at that time anyway. [fishin]
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[TubeDude]

[#0000FF]I would not presume to doubt your own personal first hand experience. But since I was not there to witness the situation...either way...I have to accept the claims of reliable witnesses. Some other witnesses ain't so reliable.[/#0000FF]
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[#0000FF]On the other hand, I did observe the cause of the problem. I was coaxed aboard one of the old wooden rowboats from Clark's Camp (?). We worked our way through small city of other boats to a spot around the edge and anchored up. Once we were parked I noticed the occupants of several boats flinging stuff around them into the water. The guy I was with told me it was corn and it really helped bring in the fish. Some of them were catching quite a few so I guess it was working. I didn't give any thought to the fact that any uneaten kernels might become a sediment layer on the bottom of the lake.[/#0000FF]
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[#0000FF]For what it's worth, I have heard your claims corroborated from several other sources so you do have some credibility.
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[catchinon]

I love alliteration.
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[muirco]

I don't plan on using it. [fishon]
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[TubeDude]

[#0000FF]The whole corn thing has been kinda interesting. I began lobbying for allowing corn to be used on non-trout lakes...like Utah, Willard, Cutler, etc....several years ago. Not because I wanted to use it but because I know a lot of dads like to try to get their younguns into some fish...any fish...and carp love corn. Having corn legalized would expand the potential for successful kid trips.[/#0000FF]
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[#0000FF]Funny how things work. Until some folks decided they wanted corn legalized to fish for kokanee...on trout lakes...the idea never got off the ground. Now the koke heads have won the day.[/#0000FF]
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[#0000FF]Not sure how many retro troutaholics have started soaking Niblets hackle again, but it is a staple of every tackle box on many lakes in Idaho. And, just like in Utah, they mark their territory with the empty cans. Here is a picture taken at Mackay Reservoir in Idaho. I entitled it "Idaho Dry Flies".
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[Fishrmn]

Incredible.




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[UThunting]

Sad that there is a few bad apples that make us all look bad! Best thing I guess is try and pick up after the slobs when you can. No fun intended.
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