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Not to mention that the body condition and growth rate of the trout prior to the treatment was lousy. The glory days of huge trout was well in the past at that point. It is much better now.
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ok Kayote what ever you say..but this is comeing from someone that did not even know that there was lake trout,brown trout, brook trout.. in the lake at the time???? i dont think so sorry.. and the so called suckers you say you were seeing were carp!! not suckers.. sorry again!! i have spent a lot of time on that lake when it was worth fishing.. it's nothing like it was before they poisened it..
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No Brook trout over 3 pds!!! Peronally caught one 4.5 pds out of Strawberry. Just because the DWR dont catch them in their gill net surveys don't mean they are not there. Thers 50 # lake trout in the gorge and Ill bet they dont gill net them all the time either. As for lake trout in Strawberry I never caught or seen them. But I caught browns and bookies.
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so i guess the 32 lbs lake trout my grandpa cought out of strawberry with the artical in the salt lake trib and pic to boot was all just in our minds?? come on guy's lets get real here huh.. i'll tell you what go up to the merrnia at strawberry look on the wall and see what the lake ues to offer fisherman..then say it's as good as it once was!! TI'S NOT A WORLD CLASS FISHERY ANY MORE!!!..
now look at the green river or flameing gorge they are world class trout.. pineveiew is world class mussky.. yuba was world class walleye tell 2 years ago.. but straberry?? no not any more just a good place to catch trout now..
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Ok...Bigfishrule, you are right...in all the years of gillnetting and electroshocking brook trout over 3 pounds were never found...but, in all your fishing glory you caught one that was 4.5 pounds! You are definitely an anomaly! Remember, gillnetting them all the time and gillnetting them on occasion are totally different!
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before the big berry was poisoned my dad and i fished it very often. at least once a week and sometimes even twice a week. never in that time did we ever catch any browns brook trout or lake trout. we fished from the shore from the pontoons but most of all from the boat. we trolled deep shallow along structure and more and never once did we ever catch anything that was not a rainbow or cutthroat. we hooked many 6 7 and sometimes even 8 pound cutts. when it came time to poison it the dwr put a chemical known as rotenone in the low reservoir. with the presence of rotenone in the water it becomes more and more difficult for fish to breath. they cant convert oxygen. however not all the fish die. bigger game fish with strong health gills and structure will probably survive. considering that strawberry is a relatively deep lake it would have been difficult for the poison to streach down far enough to kill the big lake trout. if there were actually lake trout in there some of the bigger fish would have survived because they would have been in deep enough water to with stand the poison. i have proof that all the fish dont die when a reservoir is poisoned. strawberry was poison in 1991 and was sufficently restalked in 1992 that is roughly 11 to 12 years ago. well about 8 to 9 years ago ( three years after the poisoning) i was jigging a tube jig from my tube up at the berry. i hooked into my biggest fish since the poisoning. it was an 8 pound cutthroat measuring around 27 inches. i believe that fish survived the poisoning along with some others. or it could be that he was planted 3 years previous and since the water quality and food sources are so outstanding he could have grown to that size. either way, if some fish survived the poisoning or if they just grow extremely fast, strawberry reservior, utah, 20 miles south of heber utah is one of the worlds best trout fisheries. not to long ago it was ranked in the top five out of fifty best lakes in the country and that was not just trout lakes.
i think it is absolutely crazy and stupid that some arrogant *&***# illegally planted small mouth bass. i hope that they die out as fast as they were introduced. it is ashame definitely now that the slot limit on cutts is working so well. i caught well over 20 cutts over the slot while ice fishing this year. oh yeah and by the way i have caught several 5 and 6 pound rainbows out of the berry the last couple of summers. it is definitely a world class fishery.
sorry for the opinion i am just very passionate about the berry
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SMALLIES IN STAWBERRY MAYBE I'LL FISH THAT LAKE AGAIN
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u wuZ rite, an i wUz rong. mi mine Wuz jus a lYtle 'FUZZY'. irEmeMurs dem big fis nowW. straBerI wuz ful a 100 pOnd, no 2 hunerd pond maKs. der wuz tyemun an nyeL pUrches tooO. Yo fugUt dA wiTe sHaRks n wAles... daNg DwR kilt em alLl cuz an MT res seLz mur liSsenceses. surRry bRo, iZ upPolujiZess 2 u.
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that about the worst sandpete actsent i have ever heard or (seen in this case) dude.. but good try-------- lmao ----
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Strawberries [Growing Season] is way too short. The smallmouth, if any are not going to grow and they won't last.
One of the guys who fishes my tournaments mentioned the smallmouth and I asked around. If they are there, let's hope they don't damage anything. Perhaps it's too late for that.
Strawberry is the best trout lake in Utah ... I hope to see it remain that way.
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[reply]Strawberries [Growing Season] is way too short. The smallmouth, if any are not going to grow and they won't last.
One of the guys who fishes my tournaments mentioned the smallmouth and I asked around. If they are there, let's hope they don't damage anything. Perhaps it's too late for that.
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Ok Clif, you win this one LOL, but if you are right about it being too late for that (damage by smallies), then we get to change the name to Smallberry, can't we do that? LMAO
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Sorry to see that the smallies were introduced on the
Berry, but I am wondering if the growing season on the Berry is a lot shorter than the Canadian Shield Lakes where the Smallmouth and Walleye and Pike flourish? I am thinking it could have something to do with the elevation, but not sure if that's actually the case.
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I hope that the growing season is too short, and the smallies don't take hold in the 'Berry. As to the shield lakes and the growing season there, remember this, Strawberry lies at roughly 7600 feet above sea level. The water remains cold well into July, and is mostly over 30 feet deep. The shield lakes are mostly 1000 feet or less above sea level, have lots of shallow water to warm, and are in the land of the midnight sun. They're also so remote, that lots of the fish in them never see a hook.
Either way, I wish people would quit trying to decide what kind of fish I get to pursue. If I have to drive a couple of hundred miles to go after my favorite fish, isn't it fair for you to have to do the same? Aren't there enough smallmouth waters around Strawberry already? Deer Creek, Jordanelle, and Starvation aren't enough?
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I didn't fish it much but we did go about a week or two before the poisoning and I saw a guy bring in a stringer of fish with several 2 pound Brook trout. I remember it clearly. He was fishing from his boat with some kind of home made garlic cheese concoction that he wouldn't share with us or tell us how he made it. Kind of the opposite of a BFT member!
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[size 1]"and the so called suckers you say you were seeing were carp!! not suckers.. sorry again!!" I caught a huge sucker (and I definitely know the difference between a carp and a sucker) in Strawberry when I was a teenager. Not sure if Strawberry was poisoned between then and the most recent time, and if it wasn't there were definitely suckers in Strawberry.[/size]
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I am in agreement with you for sure, no reason for people to ruin fisheries by introducing inappropriate species. I was thinking the elevation would have something to do with the growing season, Strawberry is prime habitat for trout for sure. One of the things that makes Utah a great place to live and fish is the diversity of habitat and species available to us. It would be a shame to have all the same type of waters and species regardless of where one went in the state.
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ok kent i will give you that there was suckers in there to..BUT SOME IF NOT ALL THE BIGGER ONE'S WERE CARP.. that one our bucket friends bring over from scofiled in the 70"s..
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There still is suckers in there and seen a pic of a brookie about 3# caught a few years ago . I caught the sucker on a fly about 3# fish about 3 years after the last poisoning .
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