08-09-2016, 05:46 AM
My comments about joe were more geared to the fact that I don't think if things were dire, that Joe and F&G as a whole would create too big of a spin as to affect the future of the runs. I am sure if things turn out as bad as they look limits will be reduced, etc. Like I said, of course they want to sell tags/licenses, and I agree with your point that a positive spin is more likely to be used than a gloomy report. My point was that his comments were from 3 weeks ago when things were early, and he was just stating facts and not trying to be a salesman.
What I said in terms of fish and game wasn't geared towards any person, and I agree with what you said. I think someone mentioned that F&G doesn't pay the bill for much of the salmon and steelhead recovery efforts and that the power companies do. I was simply saying I think it's pretty fair that the power companies pay. Obviously we don't all need to agree with F&G decisions, I don't in a number of areas, but some posts I've read and people I've talked to seem to be more pessimistic than others; my opinion is that we should support them and give input as much as possible. Also, if I said greedy, it wasn't geared towards you either ha! I think I was just using that as a general thought! [
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As far as guides go, I'm not as well versed as you and blacktop on the Clearwater fishery, so I won't pretend to be. The guides I encounter on the upper salmon, which I will admit isn't a saturated market, have always been very friendly and never have been overbearing. They also buy gear locally (because they're local guides). I agree with you completely on your comments about guides exploiting resources, and obviously things need to be managed. My comments about the guides helping the economy had less to do with the money they make than the people they bring, who then spend money in the small towns and places near the fisheries. Again, maybe I am a bit naive with my experience on the upper salmon. I suppose you can't lump river systems into one category, and the Clearwater fishery is definitely a lucrative and special place that needs to be managed better if it is indeed as bad as you make it out to be. I will say that guiding as a profession can be a great opportunity to get new faces into the outdoors and teach people to appreciate the resource if it is done correctly. I think on this topic we have seen separate ends of the spectrum, so I don't see all the negatives you speak of.
Didn't mean to seem like I was goin after your comments, I think we agree on most things you've stated. At the end of the day, I think we all just want to see a few more fish moving up the river, and for everyone to have an opportunity to enjoy an amazing resource!
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What I said in terms of fish and game wasn't geared towards any person, and I agree with what you said. I think someone mentioned that F&G doesn't pay the bill for much of the salmon and steelhead recovery efforts and that the power companies do. I was simply saying I think it's pretty fair that the power companies pay. Obviously we don't all need to agree with F&G decisions, I don't in a number of areas, but some posts I've read and people I've talked to seem to be more pessimistic than others; my opinion is that we should support them and give input as much as possible. Also, if I said greedy, it wasn't geared towards you either ha! I think I was just using that as a general thought! [
]As far as guides go, I'm not as well versed as you and blacktop on the Clearwater fishery, so I won't pretend to be. The guides I encounter on the upper salmon, which I will admit isn't a saturated market, have always been very friendly and never have been overbearing. They also buy gear locally (because they're local guides). I agree with you completely on your comments about guides exploiting resources, and obviously things need to be managed. My comments about the guides helping the economy had less to do with the money they make than the people they bring, who then spend money in the small towns and places near the fisheries. Again, maybe I am a bit naive with my experience on the upper salmon. I suppose you can't lump river systems into one category, and the Clearwater fishery is definitely a lucrative and special place that needs to be managed better if it is indeed as bad as you make it out to be. I will say that guiding as a profession can be a great opportunity to get new faces into the outdoors and teach people to appreciate the resource if it is done correctly. I think on this topic we have seen separate ends of the spectrum, so I don't see all the negatives you speak of.
Didn't mean to seem like I was goin after your comments, I think we agree on most things you've stated. At the end of the day, I think we all just want to see a few more fish moving up the river, and for everyone to have an opportunity to enjoy an amazing resource!
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