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It May Take Longer to Launch This Summner -KSL
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https://www.ksl.com/article/50401622/why...his-summer
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(05-10-2022, 09:22 PM)TroutScout Wrote: https://www.ksl.com/article/50401622/why...his-summer

i checked out the story yesterday and saw no mention of why it may take longer to launch , am i missing something ?
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(05-12-2022, 03:20 AM)mtncat1 Wrote:
(05-10-2022, 09:22 PM)TroutScout Wrote: https://www.ksl.com/article/50401622/why...his-summer

i checked out the story yesterday and saw no mention of why it may take longer to launch , am i missing something ?
From what I read, it was the lack of people working that was the issue. They are having problems getting seasonal people to work. Mainly at Bear lake and Flaming gorge and only on the Utah side of the Gorge.
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Can't get workers...because they don't pay enough.
They want employees to provide their own housing to live in for 4 months in the middle of nowhere with no services for $12 to $14 per hour, no benefits, no insurance, no pension... Not going to happen, why should anyone? Not when they can make more while spending less and still be by their friends and family.
Utah really needs to revamp it's whole fee system at all of our parks.
A mini van with a family having a picnic and only using the picnic area and beach should not pay the same as a truck hauling a boat that will need inspections, possible decontamination and to launch on a concrete ramp and take up multiple parking spaces. The truck and boat should pay 3 times as much because they are getting 3 times as much.
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(05-12-2022, 03:20 AM)mtncat1 Wrote:
(05-10-2022, 09:22 PM)TroutScout Wrote: https://www.ksl.com/article/50401622/why...his-summer

i checked out the story yesterday and saw no mention of why it may take longer to launch, am i missing something ?
My take on it is this.  If going to the Gorge from Utah, you will be required to get your boat checked at the Evanston, WY Port of Entry.  If that is your normal route, no problem.  If you live in Vernal, you have to drive past the Gorge and go to Evanston to get your boat checked for AIS BEFORE you launch in the Gorge. "Failing to comply with any of the inspection rules can result in a citation. There were over 600 citations issued last year alone."

If going to the east side Bear Lake, it depends on from which direction you approach.  If you go there from the west, no problem.  You will drive past a check station.  If you approach from the east and will launch from the east side, then you will have to drive past the east side turn-off and continue to an open check station to have your water vessel checked for AIS.

Going past your desired launch ramp and then returning will add more time to get launched.

The KSL article did not mention other possible sources of acceptable proof of inspection/decontamination such as from Idaho or Colorado or from a state certified decontamination station such as those at Lake Powell or Lake Mead.  There are dozens of decon stations throughout Utah that may qualify as proof of your water vessel being AIS free. 

Another thing the KSL article didn't mention is that there is a check station at the Anvil Draw Rd junction that is as valid for boat inspections as the Evanston Station.  There are also 3 Wyoming certified boat inspectors that live in Manila but are open by appointment only.  Still a pain for Vernal folks wanting to launch near Dutch John, but closer than Evanston.

This isn't going to be a fun summer for some folks wanting to fish the Gorge and getting there from the east or south.  Big Grin
Bob Hicks, from Utah
I'm 80 years young and going as hard as I can for as long as I can.
"Free men do not ask permission to bear arms."
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My take is if you are crossing state lines, even if you are just hitting the corner of another state, I do not believe they would make a guy that lives in Dutch John travel to Evanston for a inspection, but then we are talking about the gooberment.
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When driving through Evanston to fish Utah are you still required to stop for a boat inspection?
Will they chase you down?
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(05-12-2022, 06:53 PM)doitall5000 Wrote: When driving through Evanston to fish Utah are you still required to stop for a boat inspection?
Will they chase you down?
Yes all boats going through Evanston must stop at the same checking station as the big trucks stop at when entering the state but from what I have heard it is not open before 5:30 am or so. If they are not open they will not chase you down.
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(05-12-2022, 03:14 PM)dubob Wrote:
(05-12-2022, 03:20 AM)mtncat1 Wrote:
(05-10-2022, 09:22 PM)TroutScout Wrote: https://www.ksl.com/article/50401622/why...his-summer

i checked out the story yesterday and saw no mention of why it may take longer to launch, am i missing something ?
My take on it is this.  If going to the Gorge from Utah, you will be required to get your boat checked at the Evanston, WY Port of Entry.  If that is your normal route, no problem.  If you live in Vernal, you have to drive past the Gorge and go to Evanston to get your boat checked for AIS BEFORE you launch in the Gorge. "Failing to comply with any of the inspection rules can result in a citation. There were over 600 citations issued last year alone."

If going to the east side Bear Lake, it depends on from which direction you approach.  If you go there from the west, no problem.  You will drive past a check station.  If you approach from the east and will launch from the east side, then you will have to drive past the east side turn-off and continue to an open check station to have your water vessel checked for AIS.

Going past your desired launch ramp and then returning will add more time to get launched.

The KSL article did not mention other possible sources of acceptable proof of inspection/decontamination such as from Idaho or Colorado or from a state certified decontamination station such as those at Lake Powell or Lake Mead.  There are dozens of decon stations throughout Utah that may qualify as proof of your water vessel being AIS free. 

Another thing the KSL article didn't mention is that there is a check station at the Anvil Draw Rd junction that is as valid for boat inspections as the Evanston Station.  There are also 3 Wyoming certified boat inspectors that live in Manila but are open by appointment only.  Still a pain for Vernal folks wanting to launch near Dutch John, but closer than Evanston.

This isn't going to be a fun summer for some folks wanting to fish the Gorge and getting there from the east or south.  Big Grin

that's crazy if it's true bob , i can' t see anyone backtracking all the way to evanston for a inspection
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(05-13-2022, 12:48 AM)mtncat1 Wrote: that's crazy if it's true bob , i can' t see anyone backtracking all the way to evanston for a inspection
Reporters are notorious for inaccurate news reporting.  I dug a little deeper and found out that KSL did NOT give us the whole story.  I called the Northeast Region AIS Office and discussed the article with a DWR employee.  I was not his first caller on this KSL article.

There are going to be some staff shortages this year (2022) at some of the water vessel inspection stations.  If you are going to be fishing any of the Utah venues ( i.e., Flaming Gorge, Bear Lake, etc.)and will be launching your water vessel at a launch where the inspection function is not open (not staffed), then you are on your honor to certify that you have met the AIS requirements and your vessel is mussel free.  If it were determined by a Conservation Officer after you launched that your vessel or its trailer showed evidence of mussel infestation, then you would likely be cited for a violation of the AIS requirements.  If the inspection station is staffed, you are required to have your boat inspected.  Failing to stop at a staffed inspection is also a law violation and you will be cited.

My earlier assumption about living in Vernal and needing to have your vessel inspected by one of the Wyoming inspectors was false.  You do NOT need to go to Evanston or the Anvil Draw Rd stations for an inspection if you will launch at a ramp located in Utah.  If you launch at say Lucerne or Sheep Creek and there isn’t an inspector at that launch, self-certify (if appropriate) and launch.  You’re good to go.  The Utah AIS folks are working with the KSL folks to get a correction to the inaccurate report published on May 9, 2022.

Also, if you are launching on the east side of Bear Lake and getting there through Rich County, you can still launch there without having to drive into Garden City for a boat inspection.  Again, launch on the honor system and self-certify (if true) that your vessel is mussel free.
Bob Hicks, from Utah
I'm 80 years young and going as hard as I can for as long as I can.
"Free men do not ask permission to bear arms."
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#11
Thanks Bob, a guy has to be careful of fake news even from KSL, glad you got to the bottom of it.
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(05-13-2022, 06:20 PM)dubob Wrote:
(05-13-2022, 12:48 AM)mtncat1 Wrote: that's crazy if it's true bob , i can' t see anyone backtracking all the way to evanston for a inspection
Reporters are notorious for inaccurate news reporting.  I dug a little deeper and found out that KSL did NOT give us the whole story.  I called the Northeast Region AIS Office and discussed the article with a DWR employee.  I was not his first caller on this KSL article.

There are going to be some staff shortages this year (2022) at some of the water vessel inspection stations.  If you are going to be fishing any of the Utah venues ( i.e., Flaming Gorge, Bear Lake, etc.)and will be launching your water vessel at a launch where the inspection function is not open (not staffed), then you are on your honor to certify that you have met the AIS requirements and your vessel is mussel free.  If it were determined by a Conservation Officer after you launched that your vessel or its trailer showed evidence of mussel infestation, then you would likely be cited for a violation of the AIS requirements.  If the inspection station is staffed, you are required to have your boat inspected.  Failing to stop at a staffed inspection is also a law violation and you will be cited.

My earlier assumption about living in Vernal and needing to have your vessel inspected by one of the Wyoming inspectors was false.  You do NOT need to go to Evanston or the Anvil Draw Rd stations for an inspection if you will launch at a ramp located in Utah.  If you launch at say Lucerne or Sheep Creek and there isn’t an inspector at that launch, self-certify (if appropriate) and launch.  You’re good to go.  The Utah AIS folks are working with the KSL folks to get a correction to the inaccurate report published on May 9, 2022.

Also, if you are launching on the east side of Bear Lake and getting there through Rich County, you can still launch there without having to drive into Garden City for a boat inspection.  Again, launch on the honor system and self-certify (if true) that your vessel is mussel free.
great news bob thanks for checking into it
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