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Toon caddy?
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Since I can't find a commercially made caddy for my Creek Company Sport LT toon I've been thinking about trying to make something sweet and simple that'll help keep from dragging it on the ground particularly when I'm on a solo trip. Been looking through old posts on this site unsuccessfully. Can't imagine that some of you folks haven't come up with something since there's a distinct "If you have PVC you will make something" mentality in this group. [Wink] For starters I was thinking maybe some configuration that would attach to the foot rests. So before I lose the rest of my hair scratching my head over this perhaps someone has some creative ideas/results to share or know of something on the market that might work. Thanks in advance for your input.
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#2
Not PVC, but here are some ideas. I imagine you could leave the wheel on while floating in some of these pictures.

http://www.tackletour.com/reviewlaunchinggear.html

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http...7#imgdii=_

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http...Aw&dur=466
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[#0000FF]We have had quite a few pictorial discussions of various wheel setups. Here is [url "http://www.bigfishtackle.com/cgi-bin/gforum/gforum.cgi?post=258631;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;forum_view=forum_view_collapsed;;page=unread#unread"]A LINK[/url] to one I put up a while back...using a single bicycle tire.

Here are also some pics of a setup by a member in the Netherlands. And I think his toon was a CC Sport.
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#4
Here are a few pictures of some of the things I did to my CC boat.
I put together a back rack rod holder that has two active rods and two passive rods or I also carried a net in one. I also made up a rod holder for the front peg. This was by far my favorite active rod holder.
Then my fish finder mount and transducer were on the other peg.
I kept the battery in the orange box and the wires all went down a PVC pipe. It had a two plug plug in that is outside the box to make hook up faster. The thing I liked about the transducer being right there was in shallow water it rolled out of the way and didn't drag on rocks and shallow junk.
The unions on the rod holders are great. I like to be able to re-position them or take them off. I use the same set up on my sportsman 9.
Ron
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oops I thought you were talking stuff to carry rods. I didn't look at it close enough. Ron
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The wheel-a-weigh idea can be modified to work on toons. http://www.davisnet.com/marine/products/...pnum=01461 Swivels on a hinge and locks in the up or down position, so no time wasted on assembly.

I rigged up something like that years back, with a single balloon tire, so I wouldn't sink in soft sand/mud. This allowed me to push and swivel my toon around like a wheelbarrow, which is harder to do with 2 separate wheels..

Pon

[quote BorntoFish01]Since I can't find a commercially made caddy for my Creek Company Sport LT toon I've been thinking about trying to make something sweet and simple that'll help keep from dragging it on the ground particularly when I'm on a solo trip. Been looking through old posts on this site unsuccessfully. Can't imagine that some of you folks haven't come up with something since there's a distinct "If you have PVC you will make something" mentality in this group. [Wink] For starters I was thinking maybe some configuration that would attach to the foot rests. So before I lose the rest of my hair scratching my head over this perhaps someone has some creative ideas/results to share or know of something on the market that might work. Thanks in advance for your input.[/quote]
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#7
some great info....thanks for sharing
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The thing nobody has pointed out that I learned the hard way is...

The smaller the tire/s the smaller the rocks it will roll over. So it you're talking about pushing a loaded boat over anything more bumpy than a cement boat ramp you're going to need a 16" bike sized tire minimum.
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yeah, when i was thinking of attaching axle to the foot rests i thought i'd probably need to go 18-20" bike tire to play it safe.
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#10
ATVs don't use bike tires, whether small or large and they are built for rocks and more?

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[quote OldTroller]The thing nobody has pointed out that I learned the hard way is...

The smaller the tire/s the smaller the rocks it will roll over. So it you're talking about pushing a loaded boat over anything more bumpy than a cement boat ramp you're going to need a 16" bike sized tire minimum.[/quote]
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I agree a wider tire for sand and mud. We don't have much of that here, well mud we do[Smile] I like the taller bike tire because it gets the toon up higher, and easier to manage between boulders instead of trying to go over them. Dirt bikes have thinner tires[Wink]
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[quote pontoonman] ATVs don't use bike tires, whether small or large and they are built for rocks and more?

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[quote OldTroller]The thing nobody has pointed out that I learned the hard way is...

The smaller the tire/s the smaller the rocks it will roll over. So it you're talking about pushing a loaded boat over anything more bumpy than a cement boat ramp you're going to need a 16" bike sized tire minimum.[/quote][/quote]ATV'S are built for rocks and more?
ATV's are mostly 4WD, have IC engines and depending on the ground clearance, won't go over rocks as large as some might think.
The only thing a fat tire is good for is snow, sand and mud. That's looking at it from a kickboat caddy aspect.
I agree with Raddon. 16" tire will roll over just about anything you'll come upon in the wild world of kickboats.
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My terrain is different, I guess. Anything with longer exposed spokes means tangling in brush limbs and wedging in cracks or possible deforming/breaking from side rock impacts. You can get high ground clearance on small wheels by mounting on stems like the wheel-a-weigh. The low pressure means easy roll, less shock is transmitted to the toon and contents. They roll over uneven or pointy rock surfaces without side slide since they have a wider footprint. Don't know of anything that rolls over boulders.
Hey, that's just my experience here. Sorry it's the wrong answer for your situations...

Pon
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I understand what you are saying, and I think you are right about your terrain being different.
Borntofish might have different terrain as well, so taking into account everything said here.

We do fish the same waters as Old Troller. Some with gravel trails, some with hard packed dirt. For me the taller bicycle tire works better for going between boulders, tilting the boat easier. Smaller foot print so easier (to me) to maneuver.

Different strokes is all. What makes it interesting[Wink]
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#15
Please be sure to post what you end up doing. I managed to get my 2 person pontoon up onto my back by resting the foot bar on my fishing backpack (which was the balance point luckily), but I don't plan on doing that very often, that thing is a beast.

I told my wife we need a second pontoon, the big one when we go fishing together, and a small one for those times that I go by myself. Although, I saw a folding card table at walmart. With a few drilled holes, some straps, and by inflating her seat for center support I could maybe make that into a nice 4x4 platform for the top of the pontoon.
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#16
Based on all that's been said and illustrated thus far I'm leaning toward a bicycle tire arrangement attached to the foot rests. One or two of you provided pics of how you set up that system. Not certain when I'll get to it but will post pics when I get ur done. Appreciate all the productive input you all have provided.
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#17
Exactly!
The two man and dog
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The one man
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But each will fit in one of these
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