08-06-2016, 01:46 PM
08-06-2016, 06:14 PM
Interesting...
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08-06-2016, 06:37 PM
[font "Comic Sans MS"][#800000]I did a little research myself and found the official copy of the Amendment. It would appear that if you are on the water between 10 PM and 6 AM, you technically have to have the permit. I would guess they will enforce it heavily going past the 10 PM time but don't have a clue about early launches an hour or so before 6 AM. You will probably have to call the Sherriff and get a ruling on this from him. Anywho, here's the Amendment:[/#800000][/font]
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[center][font "Times New Roman"]ORDINANCE NO. 2016-6[/font][/center]
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[font "Times New Roman"]AN ORDINANCE OF WEBER COUNTY AMENDING THE OVERNIGHT WATERCRAFT USE ORDINANCE FOR PINEVIEW RESERVOIR[/font]
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[font "Times New Roman"]WHEREAS, residents have expressed concerns with noise coming from watercraft on Pineview reservoir at night; and[/font]
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[font "Times New Roman"]WHEREAS, the Sheriff’s Office desires to prevent disturbances from occurring on the reservoir at night; and[/font]
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[font "Times New Roman"]WHEREAS, the Board of County Commissioners finds that it is necessary to preserve the peace, health, and safety of the County's residents to regulate watercraft use on the reservoir between the hours of 10:00 p.m. and 6:00 a.m.;[/font]
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[font "Times New Roman"]NOW THEREFORE, the Board of County Commissioners of Weber County amends the Overnight Watercraft Use ordinance as follows:[/font]
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[font "Times New Roman"]Title 26, Chapter 3, Section 3, shall be amended as follows:[/font]
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[font "Times New Roman"][/font][font "Times New Roman"]Sec. 26-3-3. - Overnight watercraft use.[/font]
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[font "Times New Roman"]Accept [/font]in [font "Times New Roman"]designated overnight docking facilities, Watercraft with overnight occupants must be docked tethered at least 20 feet from the shoreline, [/font]except [font "Times New Roman"]at Anderson Cove Campground where Watercraft may be beached and used for sleeping.[/font]
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[font "Times New Roman"]1. Between the hours of 10:00 p.m. and 6:00 a.m. Mountain Daylight Time, all watercraft with overnight occupants shall be docked in a paid slip, beached at Anderson Cove Campground, or be anchored 20 feet from the shoreline.[/font]
[font "Times New Roman"]2. Watercraft that anchor, or tie up to a watercraft that is anchored, between the hours of 10:00 p.m. and 6:00 a.m. Mountain Daylight Time must clearly display an overnight anchor permit on the right side of the boat.[/font]
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[font "Times New Roman"][/font][font "Times New Roman"]3. The overnight anchor permit shall designate: (a) the dates that the watercraft is authorized to anchor overnight. (b) the name of the individual who purchased the permit, and [/font](c) [font "Times New Roman"]the hull identification number of the watercraft.[/font]
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[font "Times New Roman"]4. Overnight anchor permits may be purchased at the boat ramps for $15 a night.[/font]
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[font "Times New Roman"]5. Boaters who are cited for violating county ordinances, State laws, or Federal laws or who violate the terms and conditions of the overnight anchor permit may have their permit revoked and be required to vacate the reservoir. If a permit is revoked for a particular watercraft or a particular individual on more than one occasion, that watercraft or that individual shall be denied future requests for overnight anchor permits.[/font]
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[font "Times New Roman"]This Ordinance shall be effective 15 days after publication of a synopsis in the Standard Examiner.[/font]
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[font "Times New Roman"]PASSED, ADOPTED AND A SYNOPSIS ORDERED PUBLISHED this 5th day of July, 2016.[/font]
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08-07-2016, 08:35 AM
Good. Maybe they'll start doing something about the daytime crap now too.
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08-07-2016, 01:58 PM
It reads as though if you are not anchored, you do not need the permit. From reading what Dbob posted.
#1 identifies who must have the permit and it says, "overnight occupants". If you are not an overnight occupant it reads that you do not need a permit.
The way laws are written is important in how they are enforced. #1 takes precedence in the ordinance because it occurs first and outlines the conditions that the following sections become effective under.
From the way the wording "overnight occupant" appears it defines all other aspects of the ordinance. No overnight occupant, ordinance does not apply to you.
Any problem comes because in section #2, no definition of "anchored" is given and the words "overnight occupant" which would have clarified that the section only applies to those under section 1 that are "overnight occupants" is not included.
This is what happens when ordinary people write laws, they write them wrong and have to re-write them several times to get it all right.
$15 a night isn't going to stop anything and this action only requires that a permit is had, not that the behavior of the "overnight occupants" change. This is how our government works. No reigning in of the problem, just a tax on everyone, including those that have and will cause no problem. That is who will stop coming to the lake, not the animals, the regular public that has to now pay more to not have a problem solved.
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#1 identifies who must have the permit and it says, "overnight occupants". If you are not an overnight occupant it reads that you do not need a permit.
The way laws are written is important in how they are enforced. #1 takes precedence in the ordinance because it occurs first and outlines the conditions that the following sections become effective under.
From the way the wording "overnight occupant" appears it defines all other aspects of the ordinance. No overnight occupant, ordinance does not apply to you.
Any problem comes because in section #2, no definition of "anchored" is given and the words "overnight occupant" which would have clarified that the section only applies to those under section 1 that are "overnight occupants" is not included.
This is what happens when ordinary people write laws, they write them wrong and have to re-write them several times to get it all right.
$15 a night isn't going to stop anything and this action only requires that a permit is had, not that the behavior of the "overnight occupants" change. This is how our government works. No reigning in of the problem, just a tax on everyone, including those that have and will cause no problem. That is who will stop coming to the lake, not the animals, the regular public that has to now pay more to not have a problem solved.
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08-07-2016, 08:45 PM
Not to defame our police, but we all know what our buddy at Mantua is like. It would be very interesting to get some clarification on this just to be on the safe side. Since most of the ramps don't open before 6am anyway, that part is moot, but some of you that fish after dark may need it then !!
08-07-2016, 11:23 PM
I don't reply to many posts but I feel compelled to send big" kudos" to Troll for his spot on post.
John
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