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RE: Gorge Macs Need to Go - nofish2 - 05-04-2022 (05-04-2022, 03:36 PM)SkunkedAgain Wrote: So i've got a question about fishing the gorge, If I was leaving from Utah, driving down I-80 to the gorge to fish the Utah side. Do i need to have the Wyoming invasive species tags? Also i heard something about having some sort of seal put on your boats, what are they?, where do you get such things done? This has been one of my big concerns over fishing the gorge lately is I'm not sure of all the invasive species regs and don't want to get in trouble or spend a fortune... Think my boat is big enough now that I'm not as worried about weather as I was so i need to figure out the rules... I wouldn't mind helping reduce the pups.... Kind of crazy if the pups are as plentiful as you say, I sure haven't run into those numbers in my ice trips up there.... however, I do know a boat opens up the use of sonar to find the schools... also know that the mac do take the top predator roll really well.. Was fishing a lake in the Winds that had mac in it as well as brookies. I caught a brookie on a fly and released it in the shallow crystal clear waters edge... As the brookie swam back towards the deeper water two mac rushed in and attacked the brookie, ended up tearing the fish in half in front of me as one mac was on each end trying to tear it away from the other fish.. Last time I was there the mac were starting to get skinny and all the chubs and such that used to be in that lake weren't visible any longer, so i think they do eat everything... Later J Jeff, if you are fishing the Utah side of the lake you only need the same tags you need for any other lake in Utah. As for the cable seal, you by law have to stop at the port of entry at the Wyoming line and they will inspect your boat for muscles and they will install the seal and you are on your way. This doesn't cost you anything but a little time. RE: Gorge Macs Need to Go - wormandbobber - 05-04-2022 The fear posed in the initial post in this thread is that the lake trout will eat themselves out of house and home and destroy the kokanee population. If this happens, the lake trout population will quickly turn into a stunted population (may already be heading that direction) where fish are unable to grow to trophy sizes. In these types of fish populations, fish numbers increase, growth rates decline, and overall fish sizes peak without fish reaching any kind of trophy potential. A "crash" where a species dies off simply doesn't happen. I have been saying for years that all age and size classes of fish need to be harvested from Flaming Gorge in order to maintain a healthy population. Not just the pups. RE: Gorge Macs Need to Go - SkunkedAgain - 05-04-2022 Thanks guys for the info on fishing the gorge and invasive species.... I thought I had heard that you don't need to get the Wyoming AIS sticker if you were fishing Utah, but you had to have the seal thing while traveling through the state, but I wasn't sure how that worked.. Thanks for more info on this... Later Jeff RE: Gorge Macs Need to Go - ducksfresh - 05-04-2022 (05-04-2022, 05:46 PM)wormandbobber Wrote: The fear posed in the initial post in this thread is that the lake trout will eat themselves out of house and home and destroy the kokanee population. If this happens, the lake trout population will quickly turn into a stunted population (may already be heading that direction) where fish are unable to grow to trophy sizes. In these types of fish populations, fish numbers increase, growth rates decline, and overall fish sizes peak without fish reaching any kind of trophy potential. A "crash" where a species dies off simply doesn't happen. That is exactly what the Western Lake Trout Woes study says. If you believe that study, I do because of the state of those great waters now, there is only one way out. Hopefully sooner than later. RE: Gorge Macs Need to Go - FishwithKids - 05-20-2022 (05-03-2022, 09:45 PM)Redrebel Wrote:(05-02-2022, 11:27 PM)ducksfresh Wrote:(05-02-2022, 10:27 PM)FishfulThinkin Wrote: I know several people who have tried to go target pups at the gorge and had poor success and some even got skunked. The more detailed information that is posted about when, where and how to catch pups will help those guys who can only get there occasionally. It will also help the fishery the more guys who harvest pups. That's a long drive and a lot of gas to go and only catch one or 2 pups but if better intel was provided I think more guys would target them if they knew how to go and fill a cooler. Just my $.02 RE: Gorge Macs Need to Go - Gone Forever - 05-21-2022 I thought the Burbot were going to destroy the Laker fishing at the gorge? Are they not? RE: Gorge Macs Need to Go - TubeDude - 05-21-2022 (05-21-2022, 02:49 AM)Gone Forever Wrote: I thought the Burbot were going to destroy the Laker fishing at the gorge? Are they not? The macks probably eat more small burbot than burbot eat macks or eggs. RE: Gorge Macs Need to Go - duofish - 05-21-2022 (05-03-2022, 10:04 PM)elkantlers Wrote: First thing that needs to happen is to make it cheaper to fish the Wyoming side. $30 reciprocal stamps when The Utah side is $10 is stupid. Residents of either state should be able to fish the whole lake with their States respective license. I am totally with you on this. Make the playing field equal for both states. With the travel time and now cost of fuel and fees Wyoming puts on it is easier to stay close to home. RE: Gorge Macs Need to Go - BearLakeFishGuy - 05-23-2022 (05-03-2022, 10:04 PM)elkantlers Wrote: First thing that needs to happen is to make it cheaper to fish the Wyoming side. $30 reciprocal stamps when The Utah side is $10 is stupid. Residents of either state should be able to fish the whole lake with their States respective license. AMEN, ON THE DIFFERENCE IN COSTS! THAT IS THE REASON I QUIT FISHING THE WYOMING SIDE. WITH A RECIPROCAL STAMP OF $30 AND ANOTHER $30 FOR A WYOMING QUAGGA STICKER IT IS JUST NOT WORTH ANOTHER $90 FOR ME AND MY WIFE TO CATCH A COUPLE LIMITS OF KOKES/YEAR. I CAN CATCH SOME DECENT KOKES ON THE UTAH SIDE (MAYBE A LITTLE BIT SMALLER IN SIZE) AND I'M HAPPY WITH THAT. I think ALL the fish and game departments are overpricing out-of-state licenses and they are seeing buyer resistance kick in. I used to also fish and hunt Idaho and quit buying their out-of-state licenses for the same reason (COST). They priced themselves out of my range. RE: Gorge Macs Need to Go - UTFISHING - 05-24-2022 (05-02-2022, 04:30 PM)ducksfresh Wrote: Hi Folks, https://pinedaleroundup.com/article/soy-pellets-used-to-kill-lake-trout-at-yellowstone-lake RE: Gorge Macs Need to Go - Wpahole - 05-24-2022 Interesting read. Thanks for sharing! |