Smart Fishing Lures On Red Fishing Line!

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[font "Verdana"][size 1][center]Smart Fishing Lures On Red Fishing Line! [/center]
By Capt. Jim Hirt [cool]
The year of red has arrived. Wherever you fish and whatever you fish for fishing lures on red fishing line will increase your catch. That's a fact let me tell you why. The reason it is so effective is simple, visibility. Read this article for all species all presentation tips that will work for you.
Some of you will think red line what happened to clear mono line. There are applications where clear will work well but red will work better. Visibility needs to be broken down into sections. First a discussion of how light penetrates water and the impact of light on successful fishing. I must go into a little science to illustrate why red is sweeping the fishing line industry. The color of your lure has long been a concern by anglers. Correct lure color is very important to your success. A bait with a color that produces well on top water may not be effective in a deeper presentation. Now line color will add to the success of any presentation. This is a good time to talk about color as it relates to the amount of light. You may or may not remember learning the colors of the rainbow in school. The colors are remembered by this acronym "ROY G BIV". These letters mean red, orange, yellow, green, blue, indigo and violet. Most of the time I run lure colors of red, orange, or yellow when a lure is presented in the portion of the water column with the most light. The other end of the rainbow blue, indigo and violet are used in darker or low light situations. The reason for this is the spectrum of light changes as it penetrates the water. As demonstrated by this discussion, the first color that disappears as light penetrates water is red. This is why red fishing line is so effective. Red disappears at 15 to 30 feet of water. We all know that a line that is invisible to fish will not spook your target and lures look more natural. For this reason red will put you on more action in deeper presentations.
What if most of your fishing is done in less than 30 feet of water? Red line should also be your first choice. This secret is now being used by pro bass fishermen to catch more fish in shallow water. The key here is your ability to see subtle movement in the line to detect the bite. Clear line is very hard to see and you will miss the nibblers. A bass will inhale the bait and spit it out before you can detect the line movement.
Rigging is important to red line in shallow or deep water. Running red line directly to your favorite lure may not be the way to go. Tournament anglers are using a 4-foot Seaguar Fluoro Premier fluorocarbon clear leader on the end of the red line. This approach should be applied anytime red line is used. Ice fisherman use 4-pound test red line with fluorocarbon leader to detect the bite of small pan fish. Salmon anglers trolling with multiple lines will find red line is easier to see and more manageable with less tangles. The answer is red above and below the water. Follow this tip for more action and less downtime. Live bait, plastics, cranks and spoons all become more effective on red line. Power Pro, a leader in the fishing line industry, has an ultra-strong braided Spectra® Fiber Phantom Red line that is the first choice of cutting edge anglers everywhere.
Please allow me to tell you of a relatively new and much improved addition to spoon colors. I have found that glow in dark colors catch more fish. After charging up the glow paint on the spoons with a bright light, they will take fish in the dark or stained water. You will find several manufactures with this product. I have found the glow on the spoons at [/size][/font][url "http://badgertackle.com"][font "Verdana"][#0000ff][size 1]badgertackle.com[/size][/#0000ff][/font][/url][font "Verdana"][size 1] will last longer than most of the spoons being sold. Good Luck let's go fishing! Jim charters out of Milwaukee, WI. with Blue Max Charters. He can be reached at 414-828-1094 or visit his web site at [/size][/font][url "http://bluemaxcharters.com"][font "Verdana"][#0000ff][size 1]bluemaxcharters.com[/size][/#0000ff][/font][/url][font "Verdana"][size 1] Copyright© 2007, James J. Hirt, All Rights Reserved.




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[Tarpon4me]

Mmmm, i'm not so sure I agree entirely with Capt Jim Hirt. For one, if that red line was such hot stuff, then there wouldn't be a need for the fluorocarbon leader. And besides, with the aformentioned 4' long fluoro leader, you could use neon yellow line and it wouldn't matter, they'll never get close enough to it to make a difference.

Personally, I think the "red line" is just a bunch of hype. LOL, and we've all had this conversation before.

Captjoeverdino once pointed something out that makes perfect sense. Take a picture of a red stop sign with a black and white camera, and what do you get? Grey.

Now lets look at how fluorocarbon works, and why it's nearly invisible underwater. The refraction rate is the distortion level of the light as it passes through an object. Water and Fluorocarbon leader have nearly the identical refraction rate, hints the distortion is the same, thus making it appear as if it's not there. Kinda like the Windex commercial when the birds shut the glass door and the guy walks into it. Funny commercial I might add. [] Mono, no matter what the color is, doesn't allow light to pass through as flawlessly as it does through the water, which is what makes it show up it the water. It's no different that a human being seeing it underwater. You can take any color line you want underwater with you, and when there is minimal light, you're not going to be able to tell what color the line is. But you can bet your sweet fanny you can see something. That "something" is what spooks fish. As far as i'm concerned, if I can see it, so can the fish; regardless of what shade of grey or black it appears to be to them. Fluorocarbon, whole different story. That crap really is nearly invisible. Especially in the ocean, if i'm targeting a fish that doesn't require the use of a steel leader, you can bet there will be a piece of fluorocarbon leader attached to my hook or lure.
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[davetclown]

I have said this at least once before, I will say it again, the color of the line aint got no bearing as to weather or not if it will attract or spook fish.

I have caught fish with a 2 inch leader tied to my boat ancor,

those line colors are only to attract fisherman.

personaly I do not want to see my line at all, more so I dont want any one else seeing my line either.

that is the only reason I go for micro and low visibility lines....

Yes fish see colors, and no colors in it self dose not spook fish. they dont see colors the same as we see them, more in tones of ultraviolet hews.

that is why one day green lures work the next day red works and the day after yellow may be the hot ticket....

I have used 30 pound braided floresent line fishing for walleye and when no one else was catching them I was, other days I used low visibility line fishing for walleye with the same results...

to put this in perspective, the first line available was braided cotton line, before that was braided hemp and braided horse hair and before that was braded human hair...

the first hooks was a couple peices of wood splinters with buck skin or other peice of flesh tipped on it. and the north american indian caught fish with this method, (ironicly it was mosthly a woman job to catch fish)

my last word on it is, line color is nothing more than anglers prefferance....
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[bkidder]

in my opinion, tarpon4me is exactly correct on this one! flouro is the way to go! visibility of the line does matter in most situations... now, if the fish are extremely aggressive you can get away with highly visible line... but, to be on the safe side we add a flouro leader!
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[Feydakin]

This is the only red lure I think that is garonteeeeeeed to catch fish every time..


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[flygoddess]

[black][size 3]The prism colors change at different depths. As I understand it red will disappear at a certain depth that I can't recall, but there is still the SHADOW. Flouro has no shadow cause it is transparent.[/size][/black]
[black][size 3]That shadow is a big part of it, that is why in fly fishing on cloudy days or Nights....Black (or purple) and on sunny days, murky water, something bright with flash.[/size][/black]
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[black][size 3]I agree that a lot of the gear out there is more for the Angler than the fish.[/size][/black]
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[bkidder]

exactly right flygoddess! check this book out if youre interested in learning more about how color shifts...

[url "http://www.amatobooks.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=AmatobooksCom&Product_Code=1571881409&Category_Code"]http://www.amatobooks.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=AmatobooksCom&Product_Code=1571881409&Category_Code[/url]=

sounds like you already have a great sense for the way colors change as light is filtered out, and how to use that to your advantage!
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[flygoddess]

[black][size 3]SWWEEETTT! I got to check out that book. Thanks[cool][/size][/black]


[black][size 3]As far as figuring it out....not yet but it is fun experimenting. FF you got to take ever option you can[/size][/black]
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[tubeN2]

That means that they cannot see your [#ff0000]Red[/#ff0000] tube after 30 feet.[cool]
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[davetclown]

thats funny cause I use red for bass at thirty to thirty five feet....

most productive color at those depths... red also works for walleye at that depth as well....

some one sent me an ice fishing book how to... I read it when I want a good laugh....

just because it is in a book that has been published dosent mean it is true and dosnt mean there isnt some to it either... take it with a grain of salt.
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[bkidder]

you should get that book and look at the underwater photography! red colored lures dont disappear as the author of the original post claims... they shift colors. they turn gray within a matter of so many feet, and then black. the photography makes it hard to deny. perhaps i'll scan some photos tomorrow to post here.

now, with that said... all water is not created equal. the colors shift becuase of the amount and type of light available at different depths. light is filtered out as it penetrates deeper in the water. reds, oranges, and pinks go first. blues and chartreuse survive a little longer. true flourescents survive longer still. (but, the order of shifting remains the same, it just happens at deeper depths) the author of the post is correct in these things, but his assumption of the red disappearing is false... it turns black while clear lines, as tarpon4me said, disappear. i dont want black line! but, black lures could work really well!

now, ive caught a lot of fish on red lures in water too deep to have them survive the color shift. why is this? i believe the following answers explain this...

1) because the lure still has great vibration and action, and maybe even scent added.
2) because the lure uses contrasting colors... like red and white. red turns black, and white remains... it sticks out pretty good.
3) because even a gray or black color will show up well against a green or blue water background... or the sky background.


i admit that there are some people that hold to these types of color theories too tightly... but, ive found it to be a great tool. the more you understand about how your lure looks at certain depths, the more successful you can be. of course, there are many that struggle accepting new information... im usually one of those! but, im trying to remain open to new ideas that can increase my fishing success.

here is a link to some further information...

[url "http://www.thecephalopodpage.org/cephschool/LightQualityandQuantity.pdf"]www.thecephalopodpage.org/cephschool/LightQualityandQuantity.pdf[/url]

obviously thats a lot to read, but i suggest reading the first 5 pages at least. also, look at the pics on pages 6-18. then read conclusion on page 31. also, the chart on page 30 is helpful.

i believe that color is just one tool to help us catch fish. we want our lure to be seen, and choosing the proper color is key. other factors include, vibration, flash, scent, color contrast, lure size, presentation speed, and food supply. color is just one factor! if we can master that one factor, then we are on our way... but, not there yet!

so, in conclusion... as tarpon4me already observed... if red line is so invisible, then why add a flouro leader. the answer is simple... red line turns black and is highly visible! im sure its good stuff, i know i love braided line despite its visibility... but, i always use a flouro leader to negate the visibility factors. so, how is red line any better than the old green or gold braided lines? all require a flouro leader in my opinion!
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[Tarpon4me]

LMAO!!!!! That is so great! [sly] You're right though feydakin, when all else fails, that little red "lure" will get them everytime..................You're also bound to catch more than fish, you might catch a game warden too. []
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[Tarpon4me]

LOL, is your tube red? Maybe I should paint the bottom of my boat red.
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[flygoddess]

[black][size 4]My new H3 is as [#ff0000]RED[/#ff0000] as you can get, but the bottom is black[laugh][/size][/black]
[black][size 4]I have to admit however, I usually don't catch fish right under me. In fact I usually have almost my whole line out (even in shallows).[/size][/black]
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[black][size 4]I love watching that fish jump 80' away and wonder if it is mine.[cool][/size][/black]
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[Tarpon4me]

LOL< doesn't the red get to you after a few hours? []

I once went fishing on a buddies boat and it was painted bright silver with lots of shiney metal flake. By noon, I had a massive head ace. LOL, I swore i'd never fish in a boat that was that "loudly" painted again. []

I like the distant jumping too, but just because I don't want a 100 pound fish jumping too close to the boat. What if he jumped in the boat and landed in someones lap? LOL [sly] Funny I know, but it's been known to happen in the big blue.
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[flygoddess]

[black][size 3]I am not looking at my Tube. My Pontoon is bright Yellow. I am watching the water and that is where the GOOD sunglasses come in.[/size][/black]
[black][size 3]I know what you mean about the fish jumping in. Try that on a float tube or a pontoon. Scared the crap out of me.[laugh][/size][/black]
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[bkidder]

the fish jumping a ways off is a ton of fun! it gets that way while trolling for kokanee salmon on light tackle. all of a sudden a koke will come flying out of the water with your lure hanging from its mouth... sometimes pretty close to the boat too. then, the release pops from the downrigger and you know who's fish it is!
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[davetclown]

I bet every thing you say is true in the perspective of the human eye; I will even agree that red line would be totally invisible at 80 feet down. (Due to the lack of light.

as for all waters not being equal, I will agree with that, in the mountains you can look in to stream there that look like they are only inches deep but when you step in to the crystal clear water and find those little pebbles at the bottom of the stream are really boulders at the bottom of a 20 deep river it put perspective to the equality of water clarity.

the part I wont agree on is that the human eye is the same as a fishes eye. that we see colors the same.

and when you can take the same lures same size one yellow and one red fish them at the same deaths and on some days fish will only hit the red and on other days they will hit on the yellow and other days they will hit only on the green.. orange, brown ..ect... That tells me that from a fishes eye perspective that the color change is not the same for them as it is for us....

now I could read the book, and stop watching PBS ichthyology programs which state that fish sees things in ultra violet colors much more like insects than like mammals.

Fish are more closely related to birds than they are to us on the evolutionary scale...

birds also see in shades of ultraviolet, even owls have the ability to see in the pitch dark blackness of the night, avoiding collisions with leaves branches buildings ect...

so will I change my mind as to how fish see, probably not, not unless I see it on PBS

now remember this, I am an ice fisherman, I fish at depth from a foot below 3 feet of ice and snow to 120 feet down where it is pitch black. and color makes all the difference as to weather you are going to catch fish and it doesn’t matter what the depts. are.

I will even go you one better, with a color camera and monitor you can drop your jig down a hole through the ice right in front of the camera and watch the color changes at the different depths. Don’t need to look at no picture book to see what I already know.[angelic]. Remember those are only color changes by the perspective of the human eye.... those cameras are developed for the view of the human eye. []

Now if you take a camera that takes only ultra violet pictures then I might open my thoughts to something new... PBS already has,

I would love to know who put up the funding for the printing of that book? Wonder if it was a fishing line manufacture? LOL [laugh]

sorry, I am not an easy sell on this one, []
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[JTingley]

I've found that line color can make a difference only under circumstances where you are not useing a leader of anykind and are fishing shallow water.

Down deep It dosn't matter too much or in low vis water

My favorite thing to do in high vis freshwater is spool the whole reel with 14lb florocarbon. I think it's Berkly that makes a real smooth casting florocarbon line.

Don't use higher then 14lb on a casting real though, The heavier stuff has a tendency to cause massive backlash on baitcasters and it likes to just jump off of spinning reels. (speaking from personal experience)
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[bkidder]

well, i have no interest in trying to sell you on this one dave. i just thought id try and share some stuff with the board... take it or leave it. we'll have to disagree on this one... and thats okay!

as far as fishing line companies financing this book... i believe the author would be critical of their claims of red going invisible... the author would claim that the red turns gray and then black. hardly an endorsement of the red lines!

as far as UV goes, i think thats another interesting topic in and of itself. the new UV lures take advantage of this, and the Rocky Mountain Tackle UV squids are awesome for kokanee, which key in on plankton which reflect UV light. hot spot also makes a UV apex which is pretty interesting.

UV activated lures are just another tool, but i dont believe one tool... even color... is enough to catch fish consistently. it takes all of the aspects i listed before, and probably many more that we humans arent aware of, to catch fish consistently. unfortuanately we dont know it all, and lots of time it is dumb luck that helps put us over the top! but, in the meantime we can keep trying to understand what fish see, etc. this is what this book, and many other articles ive read by qualified individuals attempt to do.

fun stuff to think about!
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