XD .40 SUB COMPACT VS S&W SIGMA

[casonso]

I'm going to be getting my ccw and am wondering what would be the better choice. obviously the xd is a better gun but also a bit more expensive so i'm wondering if the xd is that much better of a choice for carry or if the sigma is worth carrying for the price.
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[BearLakeFishGuy]

I considered the XD and Glock27, but bought the Millenium Pro PT-140 Taurus. The gun I bought is the 3rd generation. There were a few problems with the 1st and 2nd generation millenium pro's with feeding rounds, but the problem was corrected in the 3rd generation (gun made any time after ~2006). In any case I absolutely love the Taurus and I've put a lot of rounds through it without cleaning for literally hundreds just TRYING to get it to jam or mis feed! No luck, the thing goes BANG on every pull. I would buy another in a heart beat and trust my life with it!
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[casonso]

I've also shot the millennium quite a bit and like it ( my friend owns one) and I've personally owned the glock 22 and loved it but i like a lot of the features on the xd and really like the price of the sigma which I've shot also but not enough to have any real experience with it but i have heard bad things about it not being very reliable. too bad money is an issue or I'd be carrying a kimber ultra carry i'd almost sale my dog for that gun lol.
thanks for the reply
Casonso
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[RILEYFISH]

I have the Glock 27 and 22. Great guns and shoot good. I also have the Kimber shop model ultra Cdp in .45 There is no comparison. The kimber is top shelf.

[url "http://www.kimberamerica.com/pistols/cdp/ultra_cdp_II/"][#212126]http://www.kimberamerica.com/...ls/cdp/ultra_cdp_II/[/#212126][/url]

Here is my Kimber.
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[Wyobraz]

Congrats on getting your CCW!!! Every Law Abiding Citizen should get one the world would be a safer place.

Anyway you actually have a very valid question that is very difficult to answer, so I will give you a couple of answers.

#1. If it were me I would go with the XD over the S&W any day of the week. I personally do not own one because I am a Glock kinda guy, but I have many friends who do own one and I do have high regards for them. I am sure the S&W is a good gun but I still am on a S&W boycott due to their settlement with the Anti-Gun lobby 8 years ago.

#2. With that said, you should get the gun that fits you best and makes you feal the most comfortable handling and concealing. This is why I like the Glocks, they just fit my hands and body the best.

Hope this helps, and by the way don't listen to Rileyfish, he just keeps jabbing the knife a little deeper by bragging he owns a Kimber while the rest of us minions are packing 2nd class guns.[]
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[casonso]

thanks for the replies everybody i appreciate the info and I'll be going to the gun shop this weekend to shoot the xd and sigma and see which one i like better
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[RILEYFISH]

I still own more glocks than Kimbers. And I only got it because I got a steal on it. []

If not I would probably be packing a hi-point[:/]
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[Wyobraz]

I'm still jealous about the Kimber. I want one REALLY bad.

But I still need to buy a couple more AR's so I can leave a Scary Black Rifle to each one of my kids.

Do you use Glocks for your service pistol?
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[RILEYFISH]

Yes sir. Model .22 .40 cal
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[RyanCreek]

As far as handguns go, I have a Glock .40 model 22, a S&W Sigma .40, and Kel-Tech P-11 9mm. Also have a small Cobra .22 pistol. (The Cobra and the Sigma are actually ones that I bought for my wife.)

The Sigma is very reliable and an overall great gun for the price. The trigger is a little stiff for alot of people, but that's because it's double action only. You are right when you say that the XD is obviously a better firearm so there is no competition there. There is nothing really wrong with carrying a Sigma, but for concealed carry it will soon get too big and cumbersome unless you plan on wearing it under a jacket all the time. I've been carrying for 2 1/2 years now daily and believe me, you need to take size and comfort into consideration. Anything that will encourage you to carry your gun more often is a good thing. One day you might say to yourself, "Nah, that's not comfortable or concealable with what I'm wearing," and you'll perhaps not carry it and it will turn out that's the day you should've had it. Get a gun made for CCW and you'll be much happier.

May I recommend a Kel-Tech if you are a little concerned about staying in a budget? Lots of people had bashed the P -11 over the years, but it is one of the greatest guns ever made for concealed carry in my opinion, especially in light of the cost. Sure, the trigger pull is stiff and long, but that's easily remedied to some degree with the purchase of a trigger shoe from the website and target practice. I don't care if you spent $1200 on a handgun, being well-practiced and familiar with your weapon to the point that shooting it is second nature to you is the SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT thing. I got a 12 round mag in mine, so that's 13 rounds in a compact little 9mm package on my hip, for under $250. I also put a belt clip on it so I don't carry it with a holster, just right inside the waistband. I can do this easily without worry because of the nature of the trigger. It is so comfortable I often forget it's there, yet I can pull it out on the fly with no hindrance whatsoever. In addition, I put a mag grip extension on it. It fits my hand so well now and I have practiced with it enough that I can shoot is as accurately as other full size handguns. It has yet to fail me. I have taken it to a tactical handgun class and it performed very well in timed targets and scenarios. Naturally, in a full-on firefight I'd prefer my Glock, but the Kel Tech holds it's own.

Kel-Tech had improved the P-11 with the introduction of the PF-9. Since the PF-9 is single stack, it's slimmer and more comfortable, but holds less rounds. That's not all that bad, since in most situations you'd need what, 3 rounds tops? Still, I don't want to part with mine. 12 +1 rounds in 9mm is hard to turn away from for the price. Since I am on campus so often, I prefer a higher capacity in the event of a school shooter or something.

Yes, Kimber and Kahr make better CCW guns, but you'll spend twice as much. If you don't want to spend alot, try a Kel-Tech. Don't listen to all the bad press. I'd be happy to take the P-11 to the range and put it up against other carry guns anyday.

Here's the Kel-Tech site [url "http://www.kel-tec-cnc.com/"]http://www.kel-tec-cnc.com/[/url]
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