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"STRAWBERRY RESERVOIR -- This is "the big one" that didn't get away. It's not a "fish tale," either. It's the real deal.
Tuesday, a 34-inch, 14-pound cutthroat was taken out of Strawberry Reservoir. According to Paul and John Phillips, owners of Strawberry Marina and Lodge, this is the largest cutthroat caught at Strawberry since the lake was poisoned in 1993.
The person who caught the fish left the marina store without giving a name. However, we were told that it was caught using a needlefish lure.
Monday, a 10 pound rainbow was taken out of the reservoir. With the cooler temperatures, the big fish are in shallow water and are very active."
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What a fatty!
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Very Impressive fish! Why was Strawberry Poisoned?
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"Why was Strawberry Poisoned?"
In the opinion of the DWR, the reservoir was overrun with Utah Chubs and Utah Suckers.
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[quote kentofnsl]
In the opinion of the DWR the reservoir was overrun with Utah Chubs and Utah Suckers.
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Not just the opinion of the DWR -- it was also the opinion of anglers too! Oh, and it wasn't an opinion. It truly was overrun with chubs!
The current regulations on Strawberry have certainly done a good job of keeping the chubs in check this time.
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I am in total agreement with the decision, but there are some who did not want it done. Perhaps they have since changed their opinion.
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no doubt some didn't want it done. Especially store and shop owners at Strawberry. Afterall, if there aren't fish in the lake then who's gonna show up to fish it. And if nobody shows up to fish it, then who's gonna walk into the store?
there are always people that will be against any decision made -- whether it's a fishery management decision, or a decision on what color mojo works best. Somebody won't like the decision.
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I personally was for the poisoning of the lake there where so many chubs you couldn't fish anywhere on the lake without catching them on every cast.giant schools of the trash fish where every where and I actually stopped fishing it. Strawberry today is just like the good old days of when I was a young kid. I applaud the DWR for work well done.
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That fish is pure awesome.
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So lets take a second and ask ourselves one question... How do fish get to be 14 pounds? What is it, 90% of a fishes diet at that size is other fish? So what I am wondering, is now that the chub are finally coming back and people are starting to catch some whoppers, how long is it going to last? How long before we ruin the lake again because people cant deal with catching a trash fish here and there? fish cant get big without forage fish to gorge on.
Chris.
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+1 I will be up there tomorrow chasing big fish,Post the trip tomorrow night
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[quote FISHINTIZZ]So lets take a second and ask ourselves one question... How do fish get to be 14 pounds? What is it, 90% of a fishes diet at that size is other fish? So what I am wondering, is now that the chub are finally coming back and people are starting to catch some whoppers, how long is it going to last? How long before we ruin the lake again because people cant deal with catching a trash fish here and there? fish cant get big without forage fish to gorge on.
Chris.[/quote]
I have seen the lake change many times, the chubs are a good thing if fish like that stay in the reservoir but with many trips with slot cutts I can see why someone would want to keep a big fish like that, lots of money and time to come across one that big. it's a wall hanger for sure. If I catch one that big it's going back to the depths though a picture on the wall is just as nice. I know I kept the big wiper and it will be on my wall but if I catch another one of that caliber it's going back in and I will make sure to get lots of pictures first.
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[quote FISHINTIZZ]how long is it going to last? How long before we ruin the lake again because people cant deal with catching a trash fish here and there? fish cant get big without forage fish to gorge on.
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Trout like rainbows and cutts don't necessarily need forage fish to get big. That is a myth. In fact, the chubs actually take away a huge portion of trout diet. If you removed the chubs completely, your rainbow and cutthroat would still have the opportunity to grow just as large, if not larger, than with the chubs.
However, to answer your question in a round about way: Strawberry will never be poisoned with rotenone again. That was the largest ever single treatment. It was extremely expensive and difficult to do. It also used about 1/3 of the world's supply of rotenone. This was a massive project, and I doubt that it will ever happen again, regardless of how bad the chubs get.
Which is why the currently regulations will be difficult to change. As long as you have cutts protected so that they can utilize the chubs as forage, then the chubs should stay in check.
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fishinfool, being one that has caught trout over 30", I can say, the fact this guy kept this fish is not all that bad. I personally like the replicas much better than a stuffed, but the fact remains, I doubt this fish would get much bigger, or live much longer. They haven't got that long of life span like other species.
But, I too let the 36" go...but basically because it flew out of my hands.[  ]
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[quote PBH][quote FISHINTIZZ]how long is it going to last? How long before we ruin the lake again because people cant deal with catching a trash fish here and there? fish cant get big without forage fish to gorge on.
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Trout like rainbows and cutts don't necessarily need forage fish to get big. That is a myth. In fact, the chubs actually take away a huge portion of trout diet. If you removed the chubs completely, your rainbow and cutthroat would still have the opportunity to grow just as large, if not larger, than with the chubs.
However, to answer your question in a round about way: Strawberry will never be poisoned with rotenone again. That was the largest ever single treatment. It was extremely expensive and difficult to do. It also used about 1/3 of the world's supply of rotenone. This was a massive project, and I doubt that it will ever happen again, regardless of how bad the chubs get.
Which is why the currently regulations will be difficult to change. As long as you have cutts protected so that they can utilize the chubs as forage, then the chubs should stay in check.[/quote]True. Just look at Henry's Lake. Huge trout with mainly bugs for food.
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Theres no big fish in Henrys right?? No FG, we dont need to see the pic again. [ ][fishon][laugh][  ]
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Wasn't going to, and I agree, all the big fish are gone from Henry's...Kyle caught them all[ ]
I was going to add, the Cutts in Henry's don't eat other fish, but the Brookies have no shame.[laugh]
But Henry's and Strawberry are two different waters with different strains and different food. At Henry's I found the fish full of Leeches and snails, Strawberry a few leeches, but algae and chironomids mostly, with fish and mice mixed in.
The floor of Henry's is vegetation big time and shallow at around 22' at the deepest.
Can't really compare the two.
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I need to post a write up my uncle did for the SAA. He gathered data from Damon and Alan on growth rates from cutthroats in the two lakes. It is almost Identical, which really surprised me. Henry's is a major food factory but so is the Berry.
Totally off topic, but interesting.
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Look forward to that write up Everet. You say growth rate is similar, but is their diet that similar? I would think allot of Strawberry's is bait fish. Seems you always see pictures with either fish in their stomach or in their mouth, but like I said, at Henry's tons of 2" and larger leeches.
Lots of Plankton in both however.
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Not sure on the diet as the write up was focused on growth rates. I would think like you said the diet is a little different.
Which reminds me of a graph I saw in an old HLF newsletter. Leeches only comprised like 2% of the surveyed fishes diet. Scuds were something like 60% of the diet.
Anyway, food for thought.
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