Ok guys I'm in need of advice.

[Largemouth_kid]

[fishon]Ok so at the end of the month I'm heading north for some much needed fishing. And a week of stop smoking r&r. So here's my question. Eagle valley or echo canyon? Pros/Cons? Which is better to camp and to fish. Any little help would do. Thanks
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[BigE]

[cool]Echo canyon is good for stocker trout. But there are some nice bass and crappie to play with also. Fish along the dam. If you have a floattube go to the shoreline opposite the parking lot....good area for bass and crappie.
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[gnelson651]

For camping I like Eagle Valley and I rarely not catch a mess of trout there.

Since I like to play with the bass, Echo Canyon is my playground. I fish from a kayak so I found most of the bass at the mouth of the river near shoreline and in the weeds. If there is no luck there, then I head to the dam for crappie. If all else fails, then its trout fishing just about anywhere on the reservoir.

Usually I'll fish one reservoir one day and head to the other another day. Both Eagle Valley and Echo Canyon are close enough that if you are not successful at one, then go to the other. Either way, I enjoy fishing the area.

Hope to head up there next week.
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[BillyH]

I prefer Eagle for camping, the camp sites are pretty nice and you can usually get some good shade. We only go up that way for trout fishing and usually catch a ton of fish out of eagle.

For an extra $65 you can stop buy big fish boat rentals just before Eagle and rent a small boat for the entire day, always a better day on the water when you can move around and avoid the shore fisherman.

http://www.bigfishboatrental.com/

Cant go wrong either way though and the lakes are only a few minutes apart so if one is not going well pack up and relocated.
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[Telbone]

Hello LMK,

Good advice by all. A word of caution though. I wouldn't wait too much longer to get up there. Those campgrounds get really hot during the summer. If you don't mind driving a bit further you can also check out Cave lake. I love fly fishing for Cave's little brookies... really pretty fish.

I generally fly fish, but if you are bait fishing, my buddy has done really well over the years with a worm/marshmallow rig.. the benefit of that rig over powerbait is it's attractive to brown trout as well. If I remember correctly he buys the bags w/ the little various colored marshmallows, then changes colors til he get what is "hot". I think he used a baitholder hook and not a treble, but it's been a few years so I am not certain.

Anyways have fun on your trip. Both spots are pretty imho. Before I knew how to fly fish I used to do pretty good with bass and trout at echo with a smallish rattle trap.

I have had really good luck fly fishing with an elongated Carey Special tied with micro green chenille to resemble a damselfly nymph.

I have never caught a really big fish in either reservoir. I think my best was a 3lb brown from Echo like 11 years ago. However if you like catching a lot of fish, then that is the place to be. Also, big fish are caught their every year, I just haven't done so personally.

I pretty much have been a loyal fan of Kolob res, but now that they have changed the regs there I'm not sure it's gonna stay a quality fishery much longer.

Later,
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[Largemouth_kid]

Yea I'm heading up at the end of the month. Has anyone heard or know about the camp area in between the two lakes. From what I see it's along the river. And is a free area. I'm taking the fly rob up and thinking of trying for some brownies in the rivers areas. What all is working for the rainbows in the lake?
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[Telbone]

LMK,

Since I know of no other guys here at nevada BFT who have fly fished those two lakes, I will post what has worked for me in the past. I do want you to be aware that I have not even been to either lake in 5 years, so my information is dated.

Green/brown woolly buggers work great. Hare's ears as well as copper johns are great as well. I always start out on any lake with a red san juan worm as a trailer to any other fly. I rarely am disappointed with the results . BUT... since you are going in a couple of weeks... my number one suggestion is a damselfly nymph imitation. As we get near June the trout really key upon this migration at most if not all the local trout fisheries...

I personally like to fish two damselfly imitations in tandem on a intermediate clear lake fly line. Many times you'll spot a trout working an area as these guys stay near the surface when they migrate. Casting anything green on an active feeding trout will get you bit. They go plumb crazy during this hatch.. it has produced some of the best trout fishing I have seen over the years.

Depending on my work schedule, I will try'n tie you a couple of my personal favorite damselfly imitations to take on your trip. An old timer at a now closed local fly shop told me about this fly like 12 years ago. The day I meet that guy again I just may plant a kiss on him. That fly has been that good!

As a side note, I wasn't aware of a campground for free between the two reservoirs. I wouldn't mind checking that out, especially if it's on the stream. Echo Canyon reservoir has a special place in my heart. I caught my first trout there as well as my first trout on a fly rod [fishon]. I even named one of my home brews Echo Canyon Cream Ale in it's honor.

Later,
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[Largemouth_kid]

Yea if you want to tie some flies and ship em my way I'd be more then willing to try them out. I'll have to find that camp ground again and I'll post on it later today
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[lvfishingdude]

GO LEFT, Head to sunnyside and if you can make it through the Wind Tunnel of Nevada, you will find one of the nicest placest to fish in nevada.
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[Largemouth_kid]

The area I'm talking about is called meadow valley wash. Located between echo and eagle. Anyone fished this area?http://www.campingguidenevada.com/cgnes/standardlisting.asp?campcode=NVLINMEA
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[Telbone]

I 100 per cent agree with that assessment of Sunnyside. The problem is the camping sucks there. There is a campground (free last time I stayed) there, and also a natural hot spring you can go in. The great fishing and hot tub are the ONLY reasons to go there however. It is generally windy there, so much so that the campgrounds all have wind screens to protect the campers. I have always driven up, slept in my vehicle and fished, then hit the hot tub if I have time and drive back that night. It's a fun day trip I usually take once or twice a year. The camping at Eagle and Echo is so much better. Besides the bathrooms and showers both campgrounds are protected by high canyon walls that will at least provide some buffer during high winds.

Just a side note... if you drive two vehicles, you must pay per vehicle at eagle and echo... so one camping site with two vehicles is $20.00 not $10.00. You also pay a $3.00 day use fee that covers both reservoirs. These prices may have changed but it was what I paid last time I was there. The pay per vehicle, not per site caught me off guard at a group outing there one year.

Also, I have never done so, but a guy I used to know would go up to Eagle Valley and stay a few days. During this time he would take one day to fish Sunnyside. He told me there was a dirt road that cut a lot of highway travel time off. I don't know if this is true or not and I never really checked it out... just thought I'd mention it if you wanted to check into it while you are at Eagle Valley. I'm sure the rangers that are always present at Eagle Valley will know about that road if it exists.

Later,
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[Telbone]

Man o' man...

I cannot tell you the number of trips I have taken up there and never knew about that campground. This is my dumb and dumber moment [blush]. I haven't camped there in at least 5 years maybe 6. My next trip is going to be there just to check it out. I haven't caught a decent sized tiger trout ever, their's should be getting pretty big by now .

Later,
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[Largemouth_kid]

Yea. From what I can find when looking for info there are fish in the was. And if so then there will be some good size trout. Trout go into the streams n bulk up for the spawn. And if I hit it at the right time I may have me some good fishing on my hands. What would you charge for some flies? I'm talkin some wollybugers n down. Just a good hatch selection.
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[gnelson651]

To get to Sunnyside from Eagle Valley/Echo Canyon, return to US 93 and turn north (right) toward Ely. Drive about 14 miles and turn left on Bristol Mine Rd. It is a dirt road but should be OK this time of year,my friend drives his RV on this road

Stay on Bristol Mine Rd for about 17 miles and it will turn into Bristol Cletty Ct. for another 13 miles. Once you reach the highway (SR318), turn right for about 5 miles and you will see the first turn off to Kirch WMA on another dirt road. This will take you to Adams-McGill Reservoir. There are signs that will direct you to the other reservoirs. Haymeadow and Cold Creek are to the left. If you stay on SR 318, there is another turn off about 5 miles further up the road near Sunnyside to upper Adams-McGill and Darcy Reservoir.
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[Telbone]

Gnelson651,

Thanks so much for posting those directions. I was going to check out that road the next time I went to Eagle Valley, but quite honestly for the drive I almost always go to Sunnyside.

The reason is simple... if I am fishing then I don't really care all that much about the camping... I go for the good fishing. The hot tub is also a plus after a hard day of fishing and before the drive home. In my mind those reservoirs are good for one reason... food. Look at any pics of the trout that come out of there and they look like footballs. It's easy to tell the stockers from the trout that have been in a couple of months because of their body shape. The only other lake I ever saw them do that in was Comins... but let's not talk 'bout Comins... it's a fairly sore subject with me. Suffice it to say that I had better never come face to face with the jerk that illegally stocked the pike there. That destroyed the best trout fishery I have ever seen. It's a shame too 'cuz the biologists say it's not a good lake for pike even. The first couple eat up all the available fish and get really large, then the rest stunt.

Now that I know of that campground and that the dirt road exists, I just may head to Eagle one day then fish Kirch the next day.

LMK, I will gladly tie you the flies free of charge. I just have to find time to get to bass pro to pick up some hooks. I had a lot of my fly stuff in storage the last few years cuz I had babies in the house, but now that the kids are getting older I set my tying desk back up. I just can't seem to locate my hooks, which sucks 'cuz I had a LOT of them in a plastic container and I just cannot find them.

If you ever wanna good read on fly fishing stillwater for trout pick up Denny Rickards book. It is the best book I personally have read on the subject.

Later,
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[gnelson651]

As a side note, Upper Adams McGill and Darcy Reserviors are closed for the bird migatory season. They won't open until August 16th.

For more info on Kirch:

[url "http://www.ndow.org/about/pubs/wma/wma_kirch.pdf"]http://www.ndow.org/...bs/wma/wma_kirch.pdf[/url]
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[Telbone]

Hrmm,

I thought all the upper ends on all the reservoirs was closed until Aug... I generally fish Adams-McGill and haven't been down to the others in a few years so it might've changed on the others. I don't think their is a motor restriction, but there is a speed restriction of 5mph on all the lakes.

Later,
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[Telbone]

Hey LMK,

I just found a pack of hooks so I tied up that fly to show you. For some reason I can no longer post inline photos so I'll do this as an attach...

Later,
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[Largemouth_kid]

[quote Telbone]Hey LMK,

I just found a pack of hooks so I tied up that fly to show you. For some reason I can no longer post inline photos so I'll do this as an attach...

Later,[/quote]. Nice work in that tie job. Looks real good. It's been ages sence I have made up my own flies. Had a house fire 10 years ago and lost all my fishing stuff so I've put it on hold. But now your work has me wanting to go out n start it back up. I've been getting my flies out of St George ut, found an old man that just ties his heart out. Never fished a day in his life, but he can tie
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[BigE]

[cool]Hey telbone, what is the hackle that you used on the fly? I tie up something similar that is called a twin lakes special using an olive hackle.
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