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I think the fish and game should think about planting saugers inn some of the deeper water lakes around. Maybe deer creek or starvation. They are very good eating, they taste just like walleye but are eaisier to catch and would help keep the perch i starvation or the bucket stocked crappie, bullheads and whitebass that now sre in there. Would like to hear responses about this. They are in a lot of waters in the pksins and minnesota. Theh are fun to catch and better table fare than trout by far.
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Not a chance I hope, why???The perch and what few chubs are the only thing that is helping the lakes out now one more fish like the walleye or saugers would kill the lakes..
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While were at it why not red bellied piranhas as well? The put up a surprisingly good fight for their size and taste like a tender steak when grilled. Much tastier than walleye. Plus they'd eat any cattle wading into the water and degrading fish habitat.[  ]
Sometimes it's just more practical to go fishing elsewhere. DWR has their hands full already with what they already try to manage.
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[quote rancid_crabtree] I think the fish and game should think about planting saugers inn some of the deeper water lakes around. Maybe deer creek or starvation. They are very good eating, they taste just like walleye but are eaisier to catch and would help keep the perch i starvation or the bucket stocked crappie, bullheads and whitebass that now sre in there. Would like to hear responses about this. They are in a lot of waters in the pksins and minnesota. Theh are fun to catch and better table fare than trout by far.[/quote]
Saugers are kind of picky about where they do well at... Not sure it's even feasible. We have them in Wyoming at Boysen Reservoir and the population is really in a deep decline right now.
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Saugers would not be a good fish anywhere in Utah as they are more adapted to flowing rivers rather than standing reservoirs. Saugeye, a hybrid cross between Sauger and Walleye are popular as they a somewhat easier to catch than Walleye. I am sure DWR would love to have a few Sauger in the Weber, Provo, and Green just to add some variety to the waters. Just not a smart idea anywhere in Utah !!!!!!
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I wonder how they would do in The Bear up in Cache? I was just doing some research on waters around Denver, and a lot of them have sauger or saugeye. Colorado isn't that different from Utah, they may do okay. But then again, while I'm always up for new species, I think all our waters are at or past fish holding capacity.
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East Slope vs West Slope. Sauger are native to the rivers and streams of the Great Plains. You do not see them on the West side of the Divide, places like the Snake, etc. Two different environments, two different types of fisheries have developed. Salmoids dominate West of the Divide and cool/warm water species East of the Divide. We do not want or need Sauger in any water in Utah !!
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I agree, we don't need any more fish species here, we're having a tough enough time keeping what we have going. Of course if we're sticking to natives only we're stuck with cutthroat, whitefish, chubs and suckers.
I think one of the big differences I see between the Colorado waters and the Utah waters is the prevalence of gizzard shad in the Colorado waters. There is simply more food in those reservoirs for predators to eat. Not that I'm advocating planting shad in Utah, just the main difference I'm seeing.
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You don't want to say anything about putting shad in any water in Ut...It mite help the fish grow...LOL[  ][crazy][pirate][sly]
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Yeah, it's a tough call between the shad affecting young gamefish recruitment and offering more food for the adults to grow larger. I'm still on the fence on this one.
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I would love saugers in some of our waters there tasty buggers. Anything but more slimmers!!!!!!
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NOT saugers. Please, no sauger.
SAUGEYE!!! Yes, yes, yes, yes yes!! Sterile fish that the DWR could control population numbers (vs. sauger), and a species that should work very well with perch. Good idea. Glad you thought of it. Now call your local DWR office and ask them if they have any plans to use them anywhere....
And, I don't think we're really that far away from having saugueye....
(glad to see your still listening tubedud)
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Except saugeyes aren't sterile. Not sure if they can be made sterile in the hatchery process like they do with trout.
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Just say no on the saugeye. Riverdog is right. They do reproduce.
http://www.dnr.state.oh.us/Home/species_...fault.aspx
From the article,
"A small percentage of saugeye can reproduce and will do so with one another or either parent species if they are present in the same water body."
By the way, whats wrong with slimmers? Especially if one is at a beach or a public swimming pool? It beats the alternative.
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triploid my friends. Triploid.
Besides, I'd take a small percentage over their parents "larger" percentage reproductive rate any day!
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No lake that has them in have had any harm or effect on the young of any other fish in the lakes..
In fact they seem to help in all ways found..
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3 sets of chromosome you say [ ]
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I have suggested to the DWR they try putting Saugeye in Newton for a trial. It will give ice fishermen something else to target in the winter. They have nowhere to swim upstream. If they get washed down stream, there are already walleye down stream. they are also sterile, so they will eventually die.
Might be worth a try.
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Sauger do well in lakes - Rainy, Lake of the Woods and Kabetogma in MN are full of them. They will stay deep in lakes and seldom get over 16" - not a better option IMO. Saugeyes will reproduce very well on their own if conditions are right and just as difficult to catch as walleyes. I lived in MN and WI for over twenty years so I have a lot of experience in fishing for these species. Average angler in MN spends 8hrs to catch one walleye FYI. Trout are a lot easier to target and catch which is why UT anglers tend not be walleye fans. And bows and brown will outfight a walleye anyday of the week. I still for eyes at Starvy but I am not in favor of planting any of the walleye species just for another catching opportunity. tocking 'em doesn't mean the majority of UT anglers will catch them.
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Now, don't those lakes have rivers connecting them with other lakes in chains ??? Again, I hold that Sauger are basicly a river fish, as are Walleye, that have adapted to a lake environment. Letting Sauger loose in here would not be a very smart idea. I enjoy fishing for Walleye and Perch, probably pursue them more than any other species. But I am not in favor of moving them around and introducing them into all the waters of the state. See no need to put sauger in any waters in Utah. Not in favor of restricting ourselves to native species either. I am in favor of letting DWR use their professional skills to mange our fisheries. I don't mind being involved in the process, have been for 40 plus years, advocating for Warm Water species in the state, but sometimes we need to back off and let the DWR do their job !!! We have come a long way folks, we even have a warm water hatchery now, make our own wipers, tiger musky, have a world class fishery in Lake Powell and Flaming Gorge. So, overall, I am pretty satisfied with the general state of our fisheries. Could they be better, yep, but they used to be a lot worse !!! NO Sauger or Saugeye !!!
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