Perch to Yuba coming soon...

[Flyfishinglover]

If you end up catching a perch soon you know where it came from. DWR got a post of the gill netting. Hope the pike don't just eat them to death again.

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[bone8]

don't blame the pike for the decline of perch blame it on the fact there is no where for them to hide in Yuba from the pike and the thousands of ice anglers that catch 50 today and 50 tomorrow and so on and on that is why we don t have perch in Yuba
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[utahgolf]

won't make a bit of difference, just a feel good story. almost like the sfw pheasant releases.
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[harlin]

I haven't heard of anybody catching 50 perch a day at Yuba in recent years..If that were true, then that would negate the theory of over-harvest. When people are harvesting a lot of fish, then that proves the population is high or healthy. You can't over-harvest fish that aint there. I've heard people say the same thing about big browns. "There aren't any left because they all get caught." It always begs the hilarious question "Well, how are they getting caught if they're aren't any left??"
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[Kent]

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... and the thousands of ice anglers...

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Thanks for the laugh.
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[gmanhunter]

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don't blame the pike for the decline of perch blame it on the fact there is no where for them to hide in Yuba from the pike and the thousands of ice anglers that catch 50 today and 50 tomorrow and so on and on that is why we don t have perch in Yuba
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You may think that is what has happened to the perch, but I think your wrong. How many nothern pike do you think are in the lake? How many fish a day do you think they eat? So, I guess you think that is same reason why the walleye are hard to find in the lake also. They have been over fished too? When the pike started taking over, there was also a decline in perch and walleye going on at the same time. Not from being over fished. When they had a 10 perch limit on the lake, it was hard to catch a limit of ten then. I know this is going to spark a big debate on the issue, but I don't think over fishing of perch on yuba is the reason for the decline. Perch seem to be declining in a lot of lakes (deer creek, starvation, and now yuba). What is the answer? I don't know, but its not from being over fished.
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[bone8]

I agree the perch numbers are dropping in other waters as well what I don't agree with is the northern pike being blamed for eating them all
Same problem as the mountain lion everyone blames it for killing all the deer so man kind has no impact on the population of our wildlife
That's basically what you guys are saying
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[Fishrmn]

An apples to oranges comparison. If there were 100,000 cougars in Utah they would quickly eliminate all of the deer that couldn't hide from them. There are way too many Northern Pike in Yuba. 50,000 perch will be a snack that lasts a very short time. Because they won't find anyplace to hide, and there are too many pike. Perch did just fine in Deer Creek when there was no limit on them. But when Walleye and Small Mouth Bass came along the perch crashed, and have never really come back.



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[SBennett]

I fish DC alot and have done so for 40 years.
In my opinion the eyes and perch got along pretty well, it was those smallies that did the perch in. They might as well be little underwater vacuum cleaners.
Don't get me wrong, I love smallies too but we are not able to quite get the correct balance at DC.
Typical Utah reservoir with lack of appropriate habitat to support what we humans want.
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[utahgolf]

pike aren't to blame either.....the key fact is they have no place to hide!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! whether it's walleyes or carp that slurp up all their eggs/fry....HABITAT!!!!! with low water and no bottom structure it doesn't matter. Planting these perch during a high water year makes sense but who knows when that'll ever be. the only good thing is taking out perch for a few years at fishlake and that'll hopefully have us see some bigger perch showing up in fishlake.
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[Blackellunge]

the number of pike in Yuba is a blessing - let them fatten up!!!

lack of cover is definitely a big problem in that body of water
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[luckybob]

It seems the Northern pike are having their own troubles this year. The water level is dropping already and will get a lot lower by the end of summer. The bushes that where under water last spring are high and dry this year.
The last 2 years I have caught a lot of pike most of which where returned. I have been 3 times to Yuba this spring and only caught 1 pike. Maybe I have lost the "touch" but I know a lot of other anglers have had the same experience. There are a lot more fishing boats on the lake this year and I have seen very few fish caught.
Not many reports about Yuba compared to all the anglers at the lake.....if the Northern fishing was good you would see more reports. Just my opinion...
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[FishingLunatic]

I don't even fish for perch so I don't have much knowledge about them but I caught a couple of Perch out of Yuba a couple years ago in about an hour during the slow time of time of fishing. That said, I'm surprised it's considered to be a poor perch fishery cause I caught some and didn't have a first clue about what I was doing. I've heard of perch and bass struggles in several lakes but not trout struggles. Therefore I'm just going to assume that perch and bass are more fragile/delicate and need specific conditions in order to do well.
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[bk1]

The difference is the dwr supplements trout fisheries by stocking them.
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[gshorthair]

I have seen this same basic discussion several times. The reason for the lack of perch at Yuba are the low water levels. If Yuba was always full in the spring when the perch spawn then there would be plenty of perch. When it is full there is a lot of flooded willows in the south end that would provide a great spawning and nursery area for the perch. When we have dry cycles those areas are dry and very few perch are produced. Think about this for a comparison. Fish lake is a natural lake it has water levels that are stable and ring of milfoil that provides good spawning areas. I have never seen any kind of cycle in fish lake since the perch were illegally several decades ago. Just my biological view point. gshorthair
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[bone8]

DWR has those warm water ponds out by the lee Kay center surely they could grow perch out there not just muskies for one guy to catch[fishon]
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