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Question – Does water skiing boats, pulling skiers or fast boats, reduce the fishing % when trolling or fishing from the bank?
There has been times when fishing was great even while ski boats were out in full force and I have had great fishing when alone as well, I have also had the reverse when Ski boats has made for a bad time of fishing or so I thought.
Do the fish really care or get bothered by passing fast boats, prop’s skier's or other wise? Your opinion’s Please![crazy]
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noise wise you would have to assume that fish are used to it in lakes, since any small noise can travel a great distance in water. as far as a wake, i believe that is only disruptive a few feet below the surface.
ie, a boat passing like a bat out of hell. it churns a decent wake, but 10 feet below the prop, the effect is not as nearly disruptive as the surface. i have been buzzed one time in my float tube at mantua and was able to continue to catch fish, on the same note i have fished when the lake was a mirror and caught fish, and the same holds true for the opposite of each. my 2 cents.
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My experience with Bear Lake is as soon as the first jet ski or ski boat passes within 200 feet you just as well load up and go home.
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[cool][#0000ff]Safety and sportsmanship are the two main issues here. The power squadron generally acts like "might makes right"...the guy with the biggest and baddest toy has the right to show it off...up close and personal...to all the inferior beings on the water. They will never change.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]As far as whether or not noisy watercraft disrupt fishing, there is no hard and fast answer to that. Like most anglers, I have had decent catching even while being buzzed and tossed around in my tube. I hate it, but as long as the fish don't mind, I live with it. On the other hand, I have had far too many good fishing excursions absolutely shut down...BAM...as soon as the first PWC or noisy boat hits the water in my vacinity. I have had a sonar screen full of active fish suddenly go blank as the fish moved out of a honey hole...after a regular old fishing boat motored by the mouth of the cove I was fishing. And, I have had hot action virtually shut down, within minutes of the power toys hitting the water in my area.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]There are a lot of variables. Some species of fish become more accustomed to increased levels of noise...especially if it is a daily thing. Others just feed at night or when the water traffic subsides a bit.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]Fish "modes" play a big role in how much they are affected by motor noises. Fish can be either active, neutral or negative. Actively feeding fish will often continue to feed, but might move out of the noisiest areas...or deeper in the water column. Neutral fish, that could formerly be coaxed into an occasional "reaction bite", will generally downshift to a negative mode and will not bite anything until things quiet down. Fish that are already negative...from being full or from adverse water, weather or barometric conditions...will continue to be negative. But, you weren't catching them anyway.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]Water depth is another issue. Fish often feed in shallower water, early in the day, before it gets too busy with boat traffic. But, if they feel threatened by the increasing activity, they will move out into deeper water. That is the most common adverse affect of noisy boats noticed by bank tanglers. They caught fish early but then it died off when the boats sent the fish out of the area. In that case they are justified in blaming the boats.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]On the flip side, heavy boat traffic often generates a lot of waves, even on a calm day. When those waves start crashing along the shoreline, some fish take that as sounding like a dinner bell. They move into the muddy and agitated water to pick off baitfish that are disoriented in the slop and can't see in the murky water...or worms or crawdads washed out by the water action. Fish like bass, catfish and walleyes use their good vision, scent and sensitive lateral lines to find and feed on the little tykes. So, if you can use the boat wakes to your advantage, and cast close in to a wave washed shoreline, you might be thanking the boats.[/#0000ff]
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I like it when you ask a ski boat to kindly keep some distance from your small boat, then they flip you the bird. Awesome sportsmanship!! Not to mention just plain [#ff0000]BLEEP [/#ff0000]thing to do.
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thats why i save all of my MRE heaters, the kind you put into a plastic bottle and add a touch of water and screw the cap back on.... kidding of course... they make flare guns for ski'rs
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I like it when boaters slow down thinking they are doing you a favor. "Go by fast"...the least amount of boat in the water yields a smaller wake. The ones that drive past you doing a "wheelie" aren't helping.
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NICE!! Make sure its a Gator ade bottle. They're louder
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i look at it like this.. the skiers have as much of a right to use the water as the fishermen do.. but there needs to be some give and take.. and some lakes there is just not room for both.. lakes like yuba there is plenty of room! and the water is warm and cleen to the most part. i can see why they flock there.. i would to if i were a skier.. some of the other lakes are cold and not much room for skiers and fishermen.. in them there should be a no sking pwc rule in place for them.. i know in So Cal and other states the lakes have had to be sectioned off for skiers so as not to disrupet the fishermen.. if they try and go out of the ski area ticket and loss of lake rights for one year.. so they behave them self's much better.. other states i have seen where they have put speed limits on the lake.. some 10 mph some 20 mph.. and then some put motor limits as well or put not pwc's on them as well.. i think it will not be long before this start happoning here in utah.. the more the power guy's insest on showing off there power to those that could care less the titer the noose will get around there neck's.. the bad thing is the state well probly wait tell someone get's killed or hurt realy bad before they do anything.. [:/]..
oh and my look on if fishing is better or worse..
NO i have had just as good of day's fishing with the power squad as bad day's with out..
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I usually fish not too far from shore, close to the weed lines, structure, ect. (As I'm sure most people do) And skiers insist on running right by me. Even on a small pond, i.e: Mantua, there is still 500 acres of water. Why not use the middle, away from the fishermen (and the weeds!) I especially like it when the cut the gap between the boats and shore. I just wish the would learn to share the water, we all the right to be there. And try to stay off the small lakes. Just my 2 cents.
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instead of using a flare gun or mre bomb to scare them off, how about a starter pistol? the kind that uses blanks? wiat wait! that might get you shot.... here you go, bring your tuna rod, hook up a monster 14inch triple jointed rapala and fling it in their general direction making it look like your cursing up a storm!
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Yea, I need one of those novelty lures. Or i will use your idea of the downrigger weight.
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^ hey now thats Trout_SLayer's idea! i wouldent want to waste a 25 dollar weight to soem poor guys boat..... rocks are free!
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I really don't mind it too much if they would just keep their distance. Sometimes the wakes created by the boats helps as it gives my bait a little bounce when I'm using a bobber. ![[Image: happy.gif]](http://www.bigfishtackle.com/images/gforum/happy.gif) Its the times when they come so close to shore that I can literally cast into their boat (and I don't cast that far). You have the whole lake, I don't need to see how cool your boat/waverunner is.
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well as i say the state will have to address this sooner or later..
what i think is odd.. you need to have a license to drive a car and the state ask's ya to take corse for 4 wheelers.. but anyone can drive a boat?
and it's not just the power squad that try and cut ya off the shoure! i had a guy do that to me trolling the other day at yuba.. he could see we were casting to the shoure and he decides go right in frount of me and the shoure even with me yelling and cussing him he looked at me like what's your problem.. then i see he is pulling pop gear on yuba so i could tell he had no clue anyway.. [:/]..
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I say lets stone them all !!! Juust kidding Water Skiiers have the same right as fisherman to be on the water. But a part me would have to say yes Water Skiers do have some effect to shore fishing the wake they leave behind creates huge amounts of sand & silt to elevate from the bottom, the waves splash the shore line creating small land slides, sand, silt and trash is pulled into the water Creating a nasty environment for the fish. Look at Rockport reservoir. Early in the morning the water is nice and clear, after the boaters hit there constantly a 50 to 100 feet of water that is brown like coffee But like mentioned earlier there lots factors involved I think the size and depth of the lake have allot with it just my 2 cents
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I have got to say it does go both ways for me.I have had fishing come to a stand still on some occasions then again fishing got better.As for the waves for me they help especially when i have begginers with me jigging it helps them catch fish.But i do prefer they keep their distances though.
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This is what I have found...
1. First thing in the morning one hour before day light you can be catching lots of bass and the trout are feeding as well (jumping all a round)...
The first boat that comes with in a 100 yards puts the fish down for a wile, if the boats keep going by the fish will move but start feeding again else where...
2. with lots of boats going by you can find some types of fish in schools and easy to catch...
Early first thing the boats does put the fish down....
Later it seems to help....
Does water skiers or power boats have just as much rights as anyone like fisherman NOT if they come within 150' of any other boat or person on shore who is under wakeless speed....
Some of the time I find other fisherman who are just as bad as the other types of boats for getting to close wile under power...
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Your idea is the best & it works too. I don't ski anymore but I take my kids skiing & I still fish a lot. When I did ski, if I saw that the boat driver was gonna get too close to somebody I'd drop the rope & when they came around to get me I'd give 'em he--. I give fishermen a wide berth when I'm pulling a skier and also when I'm fishing. Time was I'd call the clowns out to go to shore & talk things over. Sometimes I'd be the teacher & once in a while I'd get to be the student. Now that I'm 68, I'm sure I'd wind up in the student role too much so the camera works for me. That doesn't mean I wouldn't love to have a 106mm recoilless rifle aboard at times.
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I think large wakes cause erosion problems on a lot of lakes- I also think the jet boats cause erosion problems on some rivers. Now I also know that on some lakes that wake by a skier that caused that water to silt up also picks up the fishing at times. Hyrum is a prime example.
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