Green River, Grayling, and Cutts in October

[shadowcaster]

Hey everyone - sorry I am posting so much recently, but I am really trying to do some homework for when my friend comes out from Pennsylvania. It is looking like it may be during the 2nd week of October (I'll probably get out after that to fish some of these waters closer to the spawn). Sorry this is going to be a loaded post.

My main question is about the Green. Anyone fished it around this time? I've been reading so much about it recently and am specifically wondering if the BWO's come off in big numbers around this time? Also wondering if hoppers really continue to be effective throughout October like I have read a few places? Finally, we may fish there for two days and I am really considering the C Section. Any specifics about this area that I have never fished would be great. Seems like there are some wily bruisers lurking those waters, but I feel like I would hardly know where to begin.

As a sidenote, my friend was kind of interested in trying to catch some grayling. I'm not sure how safe it would be at that time to hike into the Uintas - like the Round Lake/Fish Lake area. I figure weather could be unpredictable but am open to any advice.

Also, anyone know anything about the west fork of the Duchesne at this time? I'd like to do some solid cutthroat fishing with my buddy - as we don't have cutts in the east.

ANY HELP IS GREATLY APPRECIATED!!! I can't express enough gratitude to so many of you on this site who are so willing to lend advice, encouragement and help. It has really made fishing in Utah while attending college a great experience. THANKS IN ADVANCE!
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[richyd4u]

Shadowcaster-
I would not count on hoppers at the Green in mid October. BWOs, yes. SMALL!!! Scuds and wd-40's SMALL is what we have had the most luck on during that time of year, as well as a egg patterns for the attractor. If I was you, go straight to Little Hole and catch fish. It always produces for us.

I would not go into the Uintas during that time of year. Asking for potential trouble. Very unpredictable weather and potential for snow and freezing temps!

As for the Duchesne for cutts....just go to the Berry like I told you earlier and catch 20+ inch cutts ALL DAY!!! With occasional 20+ inch Bows! You won't beat that action anywhere!

-Rich
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[shadowcaster]

Definitely will be hitting the Strawberry - but may hit it even more than I had planned. It is nice and close to home as well. Thanks for the great advice man! - Josh
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[TS30]

2nd week of October in the Uintas, better be PREPARED! Grayling fishing, in my opinion, is a summer affair. The areas they hang out are not conducive for 2nd week in October fishing. Just one man's opinion.

2nd week of October on the Green...THROW STREAMERS! You say you want to look for some lunkers, the fish will be staging for the spawn at that time, and rather aggressive. I would throw streamers until you see a hatch (small BWO's as mentioned) and then switch up. I'd carry two rods, one rigged up with each set-up and let em have it.

October is a good time to fish the Berry. You should get into Cutts pretty good at that time. But you should also be able to pick up fish on WF Duchesne as well. But if cutthroats is your criteria, and not the type of fishing, 2nd week of October I'd be at the Berry before a small stream. (if you asked me this question now, or a month a go, I'm on the WF)
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[riverdog]

If you plan to try for Grayling in October hit something right off the road such as Trial Lake or Lost Resevoir. My son and 2 his friends caught 2 grayling out of Lost today. Not anyone else fishing it when we were there. If it's fishable in October you don't need to hike to lose the crowds. Not real sure how earlier those places freeze over. This afternoon the high up there was a whopping 64 degrees. The west fork doesn't close to Jan 1 and I've caught cutts out of there as late as december but it slows down substantially in the fall. Might post right before you're trip to see what's fishing well then. Good luck with wherever you guys end up.
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[flygoddess]

Washington also Riverdog.
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[shadowcaster]

Wow guys - I have spent so much time researching the high country that I haven't really investigated any of these lakes yet. Are grayling pretty prevalent in them? Of the three you mentioned, which do you think would be the best bet? This part of the trip, if it happens, will be more about the exotic aspect of catching a grayling than size or numbers - but if we do it I want to go to a place where we have a pretty good shot at catching one.
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[flygoddess]

Well, Washington and Trial are within hiking distance of each other. Try one for a couple hours then hike over to the other.
I don't know for sure, but I heard they did plant a bunch of these little guys and I have caught them so, I kinda believe they did.
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[night_flyguy]

I second TS30, streamers are a must. Double bunnies and zonkers are my favorite that time of year. The C section is great for streamer fishing but the road can be treacherous depending on the weather. I would not go there without a 4x4 with a full-size spare tire and good tread on all tires. That red mud is like teflon when it rains.
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[riverdog]

Lost Lake is a small reservoir just a little bit up the road for the turnoff for Trial Lake. I park by the closed gate on the right. If you hit Lily Lake you went too far although you can access it further up as well. It's only a 50 yard walk to the little dam where I usually fish with the kids. The 3 kids ( ages 9-11) fished maybe 45 minutes and landed 2 grayling and many more brook trout. While my son fishes some the other 2 had very little fishing experience- so pretty darn easy to do. I like Lost because it gets less pressure than Trial, ices off sooner ( not sure if it'll freeze later as the water level is low now) and is easy to reach when there is snow on the ground. Numbers won't be a problem just don't expect any size to them.
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[shadowcaster]

Where exactly are these lakes located? When I try looking up trial lake campground for example, google maps gives me like 5 different locations to choose from. I am just trying to get an idea of time to travel to these lakes so if we end up going to them, we can plan accordingly. - Josh
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[albinotrout]

Highway 150 east of Kamas. Follow road until you come to Trial lake turn off. Trial lake will be first and Washington a little further in.
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[richyd4u]

SKIP THE BABIES (grayling) AND GO FOR THE LUNKERS! In all seriousness, if you have a friend coming in from out of state to experience some Utah fishing, don't take him up to trial and catch 10" albinos and an occasional 10" bow, grayling, or brookey. Mid October is the beginning of primetime. Go for the lunkers @ the Berry, Weber, Green and Provo!!!!! []

-Rich
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[riverdog]

[indent]I agree with the above post, hit the rivers or Strawberry as it's prime time for lunkers. The Uinta lakes mentioned are great to escape the summer heat and for kids but not very challenging fishing. The 9 yo girl that came along a couple days ago had never fished before. Even she asked if the lakes were stocked because it was so easy to catch fish. I told her yes and she said that's sort of cheating isn't. On top of that grayling don't fight at all whether in a lake in Utah or a much bigger one in a river in Alaska for that matter.
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[flygoddess]

But, does he have access to a boat of some kind?
I guess shore fishing could produce, but I got to be out on the water[]
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[shadowcaster]

Hey guys -
Thanks so much for all of the help so far. I think that we are going to spend 2 full days on the Green. I am thinking about renting a raft and floating part of it. I think that from the Dam to the Little Hole will be pretty easy access but as I will most likely have a standard rental car (when you are under 25 it seems pretty much impossible to rent an SUV of any kind), I was wondering if anyone knew of a way to get to our float the C section? Maybe I am just getting caught up in the craze of the monsters that lurk those waters - but some articles I have read have peaked my interest. If any of you have any thoughts about getting there (sounds treacherous with a regular car) or even just fishing that stretch in general, I'd appreciate any tips.
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[shadowcaster]

Anyone know any guide services on the Green River that are the best bang for your buck? My friend and I are considering floating the river one day - and I'd also be open to suggestions on the section. THANKS []
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[TS30]

You have to decide what it is you want in your trip. If you are concerned about having a decent day of catching a good amount of fish, the C section is probably not your best bet. There are fish down there, and they tend to be bigger....but they are MUCH fewer and further in between. I've heard of really good sticks getting blanked on a float of the C section before. If catching a handful of fish between you for the day will suffice, as long as there is that chance of catching a brute, then this might be a good choice.

But in my opinion, I would fish the A section if it's your or his first time to the Green. Give him (or you) what the Green is famous for. And you should know that there are plenty of good fish to be had in the A and B sections. Not saying to avoid the C section, just know it is a specific niche.

Both of these fish were caught down from the Dam on the A section two years apart. There are some good fish there for sure.




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[richyd4u]

Shadowcaster-
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-Rich
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