12-03-2019, 09:29 PM
you have me thinking about buying one I will wait till Feb.
and try to find out if it will work for big lake trout down 100 feet
and the big fish (sturgeon) in the snake river that are in 15 to 50 feet of water.
maybe it will work trolling for kokanee, maybe learn how to jig for them, hi hi.
I would look at this one
Garmin ECHOMAP Plus 94sv w/ GT51M-TM Transducer & Panoptix LiveScope System
some post I found
I thoroughly enjoy my livescope BUT the my Mega si helps me find the fish that my livescope makes it so fun to catch. IF it's installed correctly AND you have an experienced user train you fish can be easily seen on the mega. I routinely find and catch fish that I see on my Si and if the Di doesn't show a certain positioning I don't bother. Yesterday I caught 15 toad crappie and found every one on SI while my Livescope helped me target them with the proper presentation. These fish were in groups of 2-4 which is common for the large fish in our lake. Once I figured out the depth it took me an hour of scanning and 30 minutes of fishing to catch what I wanted and I was on the way home. In no way would my day have been as efficient with garmin SI or DI. It also wouldn't have been as efficient without livescope.
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So which are you? Person A or B ??
Well I ran hummingbird for 10 years before switching to Garmin and I’m very satisfied with the switch so I’ll choose B.
I know the truth is never easy to hear, but I am 100% accurate in my statement. SV mega just doesn’t work properly if the water isn’t calm, if you are not moving, if your fishing in more than 30 FOW, all these conditions aren’t necessary with Panoptix, my Panoptix works awesome from 10 to 100 feet deep, it's all around a much better fish locator. I don’t consider livescope an innovation, I consider it an improvement on an existing system, just like mega is an improvement on existing SV.
To find fish on SV you have to be riveted to the screen because those fish or shadows are simply not obvious to see. not the case with panoptix.
It’s all good,, we speak the same language we just have different expectations.
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I think Panoptix/LiveVu is great, if you already know what and where the structure is that you are going to fish. Excellent Side and Down imaging can help you eliminate water quickly and efficiently
It will be interesting to see what comes out from HB, Lowrance and Raymarine. If one company can pull of a unit that does something similar to LiveVu with excellent side/down imaging they'll have a real winner on their hands. Right now you'll need units from multiple manufactures to accomplish it all.
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I really have no bias when it comes to my MFD. BUT right now Garmin has become my choice for the way I fish. I do run both Humminbird and Garmin. However I rarely turn the Helix 10 G2 Mega on any more. why ?
Due to my 71year old vision. I really have to limit the range on the sideview to notice fish images. Even then it still is a 50/50 proposition that what I saw was fish. On the Panoptix PS 21 and PS 30 on my boat there is no doubt. If it is moving they are fish. It is to me the most efficient search machine for fish. The PS 22 is all I need when on the ice.
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What still amazes me is. It took Livescope Panoptix to get a large number of anglers excited. The original Panoptix got me all fired up. Somebody used the analogy that if you were searching for something. In a dark room. Would you use a flashlight or turn on the overhead lights ? Yes the difference is that big.
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I have stated on here several times. Once someone sees Panoptix in action, by someone who knows how to use it , they immediately see its value. What is funny the biggest doubters become the biggest fans. On the other hand my 360 View impressed almost no one. Evidently I didn't know how to use that.
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and try to find out if it will work for big lake trout down 100 feet
and the big fish (sturgeon) in the snake river that are in 15 to 50 feet of water.
maybe it will work trolling for kokanee, maybe learn how to jig for them, hi hi.
I would look at this one
Garmin ECHOMAP Plus 94sv w/ GT51M-TM Transducer & Panoptix LiveScope System
some post I found
I thoroughly enjoy my livescope BUT the my Mega si helps me find the fish that my livescope makes it so fun to catch. IF it's installed correctly AND you have an experienced user train you fish can be easily seen on the mega. I routinely find and catch fish that I see on my Si and if the Di doesn't show a certain positioning I don't bother. Yesterday I caught 15 toad crappie and found every one on SI while my Livescope helped me target them with the proper presentation. These fish were in groups of 2-4 which is common for the large fish in our lake. Once I figured out the depth it took me an hour of scanning and 30 minutes of fishing to catch what I wanted and I was on the way home. In no way would my day have been as efficient with garmin SI or DI. It also wouldn't have been as efficient without livescope.
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So which are you? Person A or B ??
Well I ran hummingbird for 10 years before switching to Garmin and I’m very satisfied with the switch so I’ll choose B.
I know the truth is never easy to hear, but I am 100% accurate in my statement. SV mega just doesn’t work properly if the water isn’t calm, if you are not moving, if your fishing in more than 30 FOW, all these conditions aren’t necessary with Panoptix, my Panoptix works awesome from 10 to 100 feet deep, it's all around a much better fish locator. I don’t consider livescope an innovation, I consider it an improvement on an existing system, just like mega is an improvement on existing SV.
To find fish on SV you have to be riveted to the screen because those fish or shadows are simply not obvious to see. not the case with panoptix.
It’s all good,, we speak the same language we just have different expectations.
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I think Panoptix/LiveVu is great, if you already know what and where the structure is that you are going to fish. Excellent Side and Down imaging can help you eliminate water quickly and efficiently
It will be interesting to see what comes out from HB, Lowrance and Raymarine. If one company can pull of a unit that does something similar to LiveVu with excellent side/down imaging they'll have a real winner on their hands. Right now you'll need units from multiple manufactures to accomplish it all.
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I really have no bias when it comes to my MFD. BUT right now Garmin has become my choice for the way I fish. I do run both Humminbird and Garmin. However I rarely turn the Helix 10 G2 Mega on any more. why ?
Due to my 71year old vision. I really have to limit the range on the sideview to notice fish images. Even then it still is a 50/50 proposition that what I saw was fish. On the Panoptix PS 21 and PS 30 on my boat there is no doubt. If it is moving they are fish. It is to me the most efficient search machine for fish. The PS 22 is all I need when on the ice.
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What still amazes me is. It took Livescope Panoptix to get a large number of anglers excited. The original Panoptix got me all fired up. Somebody used the analogy that if you were searching for something. In a dark room. Would you use a flashlight or turn on the overhead lights ? Yes the difference is that big.
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I have stated on here several times. Once someone sees Panoptix in action, by someone who knows how to use it , they immediately see its value. What is funny the biggest doubters become the biggest fans. On the other hand my 360 View impressed almost no one. Evidently I didn't know how to use that.
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