(07-10-2021, 06:22 PM)dubob Wrote:Maybe I wasn't real clear about the incident Bob. We were not in a wake-less area, I guesstimated that he was closer than 150 feet (50 yards--I am a long time archery hunter and fairly competent in judging distance but don't have rangefinder eyes) and he definitely was under power in all his wake producing glory. Even if he was exactly 150 feet away, or even 160 feet away, I estimate 100 or less, he could've/should've avoided both of us and steered farther out into the lake to avoid any chance of close proximity. I mean, who sees a 12 foot and a 16 foot boat that are fishing 100yards apart and then decides to go between then under power? He had the whole lake from the north point of the arm to the dam. Just rude, dangerous and illegal--at the very least it was a total dick move--but I guess the way some people drive on the road is directly transferred to the water.(07-10-2021, 04:59 PM)Dayfish Wrote: Woooohooo it's about time! I have never seen a ranger in their boats at any of the local lakes. Yesterday at Jordanelle, around 10am, I was fishing just north of the arm. There was a boat to my west less than a hundred yards away. This jack wagon in a large wake board boat decides he wants to take the short way to the arm and cuts right between us--mind you we were only 200-300 yards from the bank. As I hold up my arms in a wtf gesture he yells for me to go back to the dock. The one finger salute from me followed. Mind you, I have a 12 foot, deep-v, aluminum boat that handles rough water well but give me a break. That was the closest call. I had many others where the boat towing a skier or wake boarder was headed straight for me before the towed person fell and the boat changed directions. I wondered when/if they were were planning to alter course several times."A wakeless (defined as 5 mph or less) or idle speed is required when operating in a designated slow-wakeless speed area. This also applies whenever you are withing 150 feet of another boat, a person in the water, a water skier, shore angler, launch ramp, dock, or other designated swimming areas." The proximity law specifies closer than 150 feet and you better be wakeless or at idle speed. You claimed he was closer than 300 feet and you were 600 to 900 feet off shore. Don't misunderstand, I only fish and I'm not a fan of ANY power squadron watercraft or activities. But you really haven't shown any evidence that the alleged miscreant violated the well established proximity restriction of maintaining a distance of 150 feet. Sorry.
All a ranger would have to do is sit in the middle of the lake with a pair of binoculars. They would rack up the tickets.
An alternative--before someone gets hurt or killed (stand your ground comes to mind)--is for them to institute alternate even and odd days for making 3-4 foot waves and fishing, paddle boarding or sailing on all these small lakes where jack wagons like the aforementioned congregate. It is getting even more really ridiculous!
As for the fishing, it was slow. Picked up one Koke on a very shallow hump where another boater was trying to unstick one of his hung up cannon balls.
(07-10-2021, 05:10 PM)liketrolling Wrote: at strawberry on a sat they would give every one a ticket.ROBERT - even you? That surprises me.
Technically, if I and you are both wakeless (as in trolling), I can LEGALLY pass within inches of your boat. I wouldn't ever do that, but I would be legally within my rights to do so. I'm comfortable with others being at least 30 feet or more away from me, but I also know some that think 100 feet is WAY too close.
(07-10-2021, 06:22 PM)dubob Wrote:Maybe I wasn't real clear about the incident Bob. We were not in a wake-less area, I guesstimated that he was closer than 150 feet (50 yards--I am a long time archery hunter and fairly competent in judging distance but don't have rangefinder eyes) and he definitely was under power in all his wake producing glory. Even if he was exactly 150 feet away, or even 160 feet away, I estimate 100 or less, he could've/should've avoided both of us and steered farther out into the lake to avoid any chance of close proximity. I mean, who sees a 12 foot and a 16 foot boat that are fishing 100yards apart and then decides to go between then under power? He had the whole lake from the north point of the arm to the dam. Just rude, dangerous and illegal--at the very least it was a total dick move--but I guess the way some people drive on the road is directly transferred to the water.(07-10-2021, 04:59 PM)Dayfish Wrote: Woooohooo it's about time! I have never seen a ranger in their boats at any of the local lakes. Yesterday at Jordanelle, around 10am, I was fishing just north of the arm. There was a boat to my west less than a hundred yards away. This jack wagon in a large wake board boat decides he wants to take the short way to the arm and cuts right between us--mind you we were only 200-300 yards from the bank. As I hold up my arms in a wtf gesture he yells for me to go back to the dock. The one finger salute from me followed. Mind you, I have a 12 foot, deep-v, aluminum boat that handles rough water well but give me a break. That was the closest call. I had many others where the boat towing a skier or wake boarder was headed straight for me before the towed person fell and the boat changed directions. I wondered when/if they were were planning to alter course several times."A wakeless (defined as 5 mph or less) or idle speed is required when operating in a designated slow-wakeless speed area. This also applies whenever you are withing 150 feet of another boat, a person in the water, a water skier, shore angler, launch ramp, dock, or other designated swimming areas." The proximity law specifies closer than 150 feet and you better be wakeless or at idle speed. You claimed he was closer than 300 feet and you were 600 to 900 feet off shore. Don't misunderstand, I only fish and I'm not a fan of ANY power squadron watercraft or activities. But you really haven't shown any evidence that the alleged miscreant violated the well established proximity restriction of maintaining a distance of 150 feet. Sorry.
All a ranger would have to do is sit in the middle of the lake with a pair of binoculars. They would rack up the tickets.
An alternative--before someone gets hurt or killed (stand your ground comes to mind)--is for them to institute alternate even and odd days for making 3-4 foot waves and fishing, paddle boarding or sailing on all these small lakes where jack wagons like the aforementioned congregate. It is getting even more really ridiculous!
As for the fishing, it was slow. Picked up one Koke on a very shallow hump where another boater was trying to unstick one of his hung up cannon balls.
(07-10-2021, 05:10 PM)liketrolling Wrote: at strawberry on a sat they would give every one a ticket.ROBERT - even you? That surprises me.
Technically, if I and you are both wakeless (as in trolling), I can LEGALLY pass within inches of your boat. I wouldn't ever do that, but I would be legally within my rights to do so. I'm comfortable with others being at least 30 feet or more away from me, but I also know some that think 100 feet is WAY too close.
(07-11-2021, 12:34 PM)RockyRaab2 Wrote: I would absolutely be in favor of alternating days for fishing and "high-speed" water sports. Better yet, I'd love to see certain lakes designated as fishing only and others as non-fishing.Totally agree Rocky.
The problem will only get worse as more and more of our reservoirs shrink to unlaunchable levels. The remaining lakes will then get all the pressure of both kinds of water sports. They'll either have to limit the number of boats that can launch on a given day, or find some other way to insure safety.
(07-10-2021, 10:23 PM)Therapist Wrote: Ask TD about people getting to close at speed !! He has had more than one run in with The power squadron in his tube. What I can't understand is why they have to ski so close to the shore. About 10 yrs ago, I was fishing Deer Creek, mid morning buzz bait bite under the tracks. I was sitting on the corner where the shore turns north, bout 20 ft off the shore, throwing back along the rocks. A boat, pulling a skier is coming towards me, with the skier next to the shore. Neither the driver or skier were paying attention and the skier was going to cut between me and the shoreline, pulling the rope over my boat. I bounced my buzz bait off the windshield of the boat, causing the driver, a girl, to swerve to the right, dropping the skier into the water about 25-30 ft in front of me. I got on the trolling motor and moved between the guy in the water and the boat. Every time she would try and come in and pick him up, I would bounce the buzz bait off the windshield again. Kept him in the water for about 20 minutes, then let her get him. Of course they immediately went to the ranger who came over and was going to give me a ticket until I explained what happened. He then went and ticketed them. I can't count the number of times I have been fishing a shore line and had a ski boat or jet ski go between me and the shore. It is insane. I hope that this enforcement effort is not short lived, but continues on into the future. We can only hope !!!
Love that story Therapist! Buzz bait off the windshield would be pretty intimidating. I bet it was good therapy all around when they got the ticket.