03-20-2006, 03:51 AM
[font "Comic Sans MS"][green][size 3]I use copper johns in all colors and tie my own. Scotty gives good advise. I use mostly 16 and 18, but bigger ones will work. I start off tying the two turky biot tal in first then tie in Ultra Wire (small) UTC trying to keep the tail separated can be tricky but comes in time. All the fishing stores carry the Ultra Wire in small and Med. And they come in all colors, I even use wire for my Chironos. (bullet proof). I have also found real fine wire on small electric tool armetures. The reat of a copper john is peacock, over wing and partridge gills. I do use a bead. As far as brassies, easy, tie on wire wrap hook and add dubbing or peacock. Good luck and check in to what Scotty said.[/size][/green][/font]
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