09-26-2006, 01:59 PM
[reply] And I'd just like to post this here, too. I'll admit that my little brother did cast over him once before he saw him. But then, he yelled 3 or 4 times, "Hey sir, sorry about that." And W&B didn't say one word to him. Far from it, he turned away. We drove up river and never saw him again. How we were stepping on him all day I don't know; We fished Otter Creek after about 1.
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Well, if your brother said anything, I never heard it. I stayed finished fishing the spot i was on and left...when I left and went upstream, I could still see someone standing near the spot i was on and I could hear other people talking and busting through the brush. But, again, no one yelled that I could hear. I was not annoyed that his happened...I understood that your brother did not know that i was there. No big deal.
However, unless I am mistaking your group for a different group, you jumped from big hole to big hole and right in front of me on two more occasions. I may have your family
with a different group, but I find it to be very poor etiquette for someone to leap frog another fisherman on a relatively uncrowded river. If it was not your group, I apologize.
It is never good to see lots of dead trout, I agree. But, I think you are definitely exaggerating the effects this is having downstream. Unless the fish died from something other than low flows upstream (like poison from irrigators--which is possible and has happened at times in this area), I don't think the fish in Marysvale Canyon are threatened. Between Saturday and Sunday, I fished the entire stretch of river from the sharp curve at the mouth of the canyon and private property to Big Rock and never saw loads of dead or belly up fish...in fact, I don't recall seeing a single dead fish. Also, many good streams with much lower flows than the Sevier and its 20cfs hold large trout through winter months despite freezing over...true, some fish may die, but that holds true in any stream during the winter. You mention the smallmouth bass...if those fish could take over the river, it would have already happened. Smallmouth have been stocked in Piute numerous times over the years and have never taken the river over...again, I think you are exaggerating the effect of this die off.
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Well, if your brother said anything, I never heard it. I stayed finished fishing the spot i was on and left...when I left and went upstream, I could still see someone standing near the spot i was on and I could hear other people talking and busting through the brush. But, again, no one yelled that I could hear. I was not annoyed that his happened...I understood that your brother did not know that i was there. No big deal.
However, unless I am mistaking your group for a different group, you jumped from big hole to big hole and right in front of me on two more occasions. I may have your family
with a different group, but I find it to be very poor etiquette for someone to leap frog another fisherman on a relatively uncrowded river. If it was not your group, I apologize.It is never good to see lots of dead trout, I agree. But, I think you are definitely exaggerating the effects this is having downstream. Unless the fish died from something other than low flows upstream (like poison from irrigators--which is possible and has happened at times in this area), I don't think the fish in Marysvale Canyon are threatened. Between Saturday and Sunday, I fished the entire stretch of river from the sharp curve at the mouth of the canyon and private property to Big Rock and never saw loads of dead or belly up fish...in fact, I don't recall seeing a single dead fish. Also, many good streams with much lower flows than the Sevier and its 20cfs hold large trout through winter months despite freezing over...true, some fish may die, but that holds true in any stream during the winter. You mention the smallmouth bass...if those fish could take over the river, it would have already happened. Smallmouth have been stocked in Piute numerous times over the years and have never taken the river over...again, I think you are exaggerating the effect of this die off.
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