01-28-2007, 07:05 AM
[size 3][black]I thought about a line you put in your post today while on the ice fishing,,[/black][/size]
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[size 3][black]I got in to a debate with another angler and we were discussing trapping,[/black][/size]
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[size 3][black]We got to talking about people stealing traps, and the scenario came up, some one pulls one of your traps and takes it out of the woods, a CO comes by and catches the man with the trap. What is supposed to happen?[/black][/size]
[size 3][black] [/black][/size] [ul] [li][size 3][black]Well the co is supposed to check the man carrying the trap for his trapping license[/black][/size][/li] [li][size 3][black]Check the trap for a name and address[/black][/size][/li][/ul]
[size 3][black]So we come up with two possible scenarios, [/black][/size]
[size 3][black] [/black][/size] [ol] [li][size 3][black]The trap has a name and address that dose not match the name of the man carrying it.[/black][/size][/li] [li][size 3][black]The trap doses not have a nametag on the trap. And the guy says he pulled it because it doesn’t have a nametag on it and was bringing it in to a CO.[/black][/size][/li][/ol]
[size 3][black]The debate arose, dose this person get a ticket, and for which scenario?[/black][/size]
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[size 3][black]The answer is the person gets a ticket for both scenarios.[/black][/size]
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[size 3][black]Why?[/black][/size]
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[size 3][black]In scenario #1 he gets a ticket because names do not match. Doesn’t matter if you and your buddy are checking each other's traps, If that be the case, your buddy, even though it may be an inconvenience will show up at a police station or CO office and present himself as a co-trapper of a line... If not he is stealing traps!!!!![/black][/size]
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[size 3][black]In scenario #2 where the trap dose not have a name on it, the person gets a ticket which he can not dispute because by law he is in the possession of a trap in the woods not bearing a name and claiming to have pulled the trap to turn in he has given testimony against himself as to disturbing another mans trap, thus he receives yet another ticket. It doesn’t matter if he is telling the truth or not, no one can say one-way or the other, so he is in violation of two laws. Lets say the person doesn’t have a trapper’s license; he gets a third ticket... But wait, we are not done there, lets say he was telling the truth, and the trap did not have a name tag on it, he gets yet one more ticket, "evidence tampering" which is a felony[/black][/size]
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[size 3][black]The point is, even though there is no exam question for that in the hunting guide, if you don’t know about it you can still get in trouble for it, An officer once told me that Ignorance was 9/10s of the law...[/black][/size]
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[size 3][black]What happens if you fail to learn all the laws before you act, you get to pay the court for your failure, because here there is only one passing grade and one failing grade. "You pass, you don’t get a ticket, you fail, and you pay the piper"[/black][/size]
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[size 3][black]Here is where the problem lays; our average adult only has the reading capacity of a student in the third grade.[/black][/size]
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[size 3][black]It would be kool though if the state had a free online fishing exam and hunting exams where anglers could test their knowledge and keep their legal edges sharp...[/black][/size]
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[black][size 3]The point is, not to harass the paying costumers, but to prosecute those stealing from the store[/size][/black]....[sly]
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[size 3][black]I got in to a debate with another angler and we were discussing trapping,[/black][/size]
[size 3][black] [/black][/size]
[size 3][black]We got to talking about people stealing traps, and the scenario came up, some one pulls one of your traps and takes it out of the woods, a CO comes by and catches the man with the trap. What is supposed to happen?[/black][/size]
[size 3][black] [/black][/size] [ul] [li][size 3][black]Well the co is supposed to check the man carrying the trap for his trapping license[/black][/size][/li] [li][size 3][black]Check the trap for a name and address[/black][/size][/li][/ul]
[size 3][black]So we come up with two possible scenarios, [/black][/size]
[size 3][black] [/black][/size] [ol] [li][size 3][black]The trap has a name and address that dose not match the name of the man carrying it.[/black][/size][/li] [li][size 3][black]The trap doses not have a nametag on the trap. And the guy says he pulled it because it doesn’t have a nametag on it and was bringing it in to a CO.[/black][/size][/li][/ol]
[size 3][black]The debate arose, dose this person get a ticket, and for which scenario?[/black][/size]
[size 3][black] [/black][/size]
[size 3][black]The answer is the person gets a ticket for both scenarios.[/black][/size]
[size 3][black] [/black][/size]
[size 3][black]Why?[/black][/size]
[size 3][black] [/black][/size]
[size 3][black]In scenario #1 he gets a ticket because names do not match. Doesn’t matter if you and your buddy are checking each other's traps, If that be the case, your buddy, even though it may be an inconvenience will show up at a police station or CO office and present himself as a co-trapper of a line... If not he is stealing traps!!!!![/black][/size]
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[size 3][black]In scenario #2 where the trap dose not have a name on it, the person gets a ticket which he can not dispute because by law he is in the possession of a trap in the woods not bearing a name and claiming to have pulled the trap to turn in he has given testimony against himself as to disturbing another mans trap, thus he receives yet another ticket. It doesn’t matter if he is telling the truth or not, no one can say one-way or the other, so he is in violation of two laws. Lets say the person doesn’t have a trapper’s license; he gets a third ticket... But wait, we are not done there, lets say he was telling the truth, and the trap did not have a name tag on it, he gets yet one more ticket, "evidence tampering" which is a felony[/black][/size]
[size 3][black] [/black][/size]
[size 3][black]The point is, even though there is no exam question for that in the hunting guide, if you don’t know about it you can still get in trouble for it, An officer once told me that Ignorance was 9/10s of the law...[/black][/size]
[size 3][black] [/black][/size]
[size 3][black]What happens if you fail to learn all the laws before you act, you get to pay the court for your failure, because here there is only one passing grade and one failing grade. "You pass, you don’t get a ticket, you fail, and you pay the piper"[/black][/size]
[size 3][black] [/black][/size]
[size 3][black]Here is where the problem lays; our average adult only has the reading capacity of a student in the third grade.[/black][/size]
[size 3][black] [/black][/size]
[size 3][black]It would be kool though if the state had a free online fishing exam and hunting exams where anglers could test their knowledge and keep their legal edges sharp...[/black][/size]
[size 3][black] [/black][/size]
[black][size 3]The point is, not to harass the paying costumers, but to prosecute those stealing from the store[/size][/black]....[sly]
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