06-21-2008, 05:47 PM
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[#0000ff]And, give me some credit. Over the 5 decades I have been tube fishing, I have fished from more float tubes than most people even suspect exist. I have a whole list of "checkouts" I use to rate a tube and to decide whether it works or not. I have NEVER had any other potential slideout problems except for the Daytripper.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]With all due respect, I DO NOT CARE what your experiences...or your brother in law's are. They mean nothing to ME. My concerns are whether or not the tube will float ME comfortably and whether I can fish from it. My size and my style of fishing create a totally different set of circumstances from what you and your style of fishing create.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]I respect your experience, and your opinions. All I am saying is that what suits you will not always suit me...and vice versa. Fair nuff?[/#0000ff]
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[font "Times New Roman"][#000000][size 4]Come on now Pat. This is not the Tube Dude Forum. We all know how long you and the wife have been float tubing. No one is saying you're not an experienced float tuber. But one does not need to float tube for decades to know what's good, what's crap and so forth. 90% of the tubes you've tried since you've been tubing, have fallen by the wayside and have been discontinued in favor of moving ahead with the times and materials, new shapes and styles.[/size][/#000000][/font]
[font "Times New Roman"][#000000][size 4]You don't like fishing from the H3. That's your's and Tube Babe's opinions. I'm not a lot smaller than you are (and neither are my brothers) and I've not had any problems sliding off the seat (seat is not tilted forward in other words) The best built tube on the market. And you know it is. So NFO didn't give you a freebee or sell one to you at half price. We don't get one either. I bought our H3's from Dennis Brakke- Fly Desk. So I got them for what he sells them for. Joni told you what we paid for the CC's from Anglers Inn. The Navi's were show price. [/size][/#000000][/font]
[font "Times New Roman"][#000000][size 4]Majja and a few others love their's (H3's) too. Just remember you carry a lot of weight here, and just because they weren't your cup of tea, doesn't mean others might not like them. For the price between a SFC and H3 you know which is the better built, longer lasting boat.[/size][/#000000][/font]
[font "Times New Roman"][#000000][size 4]I had problem with my SFC when I had it. One was the seat. Granted it wasn't a blow up seat, but the foam seat. Now that felt like I was sliding off for the first 1/2 hour I sat in it [/size][/#000000][/font][font "Times New Roman"][#000000][size 4]until the cheesey seat back started to fold in half(then I did what you did. Slide a piece of lexan in the back for support. It hugs my hips because it's so narrow and it tires you out when you have to kick (compared to the H3) That's a lot of drag in the water.[/size][/#000000][/font]
[font "Times New Roman"][#000000][size 4]One of the best days of my fishing life was when I got the H3. And for some reason, I've never had the problems you two have had, don't have any problem with getting a fish into the pocket (between the tube tips), not problems with the seat or back- I inflate them to what I like and they're darn comfortable to fish in all day. I can transport them in the back of the truck (with shell) fully inflated and you're vehicle is a Blazer (mid size) if I remember and I see how you'd like a smaller craft as so you wouldn't have to deflate them.[/size][/#000000][/font] I can see some of the cons you have (size) but not any of the others.
[font "Times New Roman"][size 4]And I'll disagree with you on the USA/ China made thing. China has CRAP. Most things built in the US in fishing are 100%+ better than crap out of China.[/size][/font]
[font "Times New Roman"][#000000][size 4]I respect your opinion, but I also don't care what YOUR experences are either, because they mean nothing to me. I'm not one to follow the "leader" because I form my own opinions from my experiences. People look up to you, so as a moderator, you should be pretty even keeled. One man's celing is another man's floor.[/size][/#000000][/font]
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[#0000ff]And, give me some credit. Over the 5 decades I have been tube fishing, I have fished from more float tubes than most people even suspect exist. I have a whole list of "checkouts" I use to rate a tube and to decide whether it works or not. I have NEVER had any other potential slideout problems except for the Daytripper.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]With all due respect, I DO NOT CARE what your experiences...or your brother in law's are. They mean nothing to ME. My concerns are whether or not the tube will float ME comfortably and whether I can fish from it. My size and my style of fishing create a totally different set of circumstances from what you and your style of fishing create.[/#0000ff]
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[#0000ff]I respect your experience, and your opinions. All I am saying is that what suits you will not always suit me...and vice versa. Fair nuff?[/#0000ff]
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[font "Times New Roman"][#000000][size 4]Come on now Pat. This is not the Tube Dude Forum. We all know how long you and the wife have been float tubing. No one is saying you're not an experienced float tuber. But one does not need to float tube for decades to know what's good, what's crap and so forth. 90% of the tubes you've tried since you've been tubing, have fallen by the wayside and have been discontinued in favor of moving ahead with the times and materials, new shapes and styles.[/size][/#000000][/font]
[font "Times New Roman"][#000000][size 4]You don't like fishing from the H3. That's your's and Tube Babe's opinions. I'm not a lot smaller than you are (and neither are my brothers) and I've not had any problems sliding off the seat (seat is not tilted forward in other words) The best built tube on the market. And you know it is. So NFO didn't give you a freebee or sell one to you at half price. We don't get one either. I bought our H3's from Dennis Brakke- Fly Desk. So I got them for what he sells them for. Joni told you what we paid for the CC's from Anglers Inn. The Navi's were show price. [/size][/#000000][/font]
[font "Times New Roman"][#000000][size 4]Majja and a few others love their's (H3's) too. Just remember you carry a lot of weight here, and just because they weren't your cup of tea, doesn't mean others might not like them. For the price between a SFC and H3 you know which is the better built, longer lasting boat.[/size][/#000000][/font]
[font "Times New Roman"][#000000][size 4]I had problem with my SFC when I had it. One was the seat. Granted it wasn't a blow up seat, but the foam seat. Now that felt like I was sliding off for the first 1/2 hour I sat in it [/size][/#000000][/font][font "Times New Roman"][#000000][size 4]until the cheesey seat back started to fold in half(then I did what you did. Slide a piece of lexan in the back for support. It hugs my hips because it's so narrow and it tires you out when you have to kick (compared to the H3) That's a lot of drag in the water.[/size][/#000000][/font]
[font "Times New Roman"][#000000][size 4]One of the best days of my fishing life was when I got the H3. And for some reason, I've never had the problems you two have had, don't have any problem with getting a fish into the pocket (between the tube tips), not problems with the seat or back- I inflate them to what I like and they're darn comfortable to fish in all day. I can transport them in the back of the truck (with shell) fully inflated and you're vehicle is a Blazer (mid size) if I remember and I see how you'd like a smaller craft as so you wouldn't have to deflate them.[/size][/#000000][/font] I can see some of the cons you have (size) but not any of the others.
[font "Times New Roman"][size 4]And I'll disagree with you on the USA/ China made thing. China has CRAP. Most things built in the US in fishing are 100%+ better than crap out of China.[/size][/font]
[font "Times New Roman"][#000000][size 4]I respect your opinion, but I also don't care what YOUR experences are either, because they mean nothing to me. I'm not one to follow the "leader" because I form my own opinions from my experiences. People look up to you, so as a moderator, you should be pretty even keeled. One man's celing is another man's floor.[/size][/#000000][/font]
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